[mb-style] Should we change Classical Rules?

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

2006/10/3, David Gibson <musicbrainz at gibson.dropbear.id.au>:
>
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:46:49PM -0400, Christopher Aillon wrote:
> [snip]
> > >The way it is not "a win" is that the recording of Bach Violin Concerti
> > >will no longer be collected together with the other recordings of Bach
> > >Violin Concerti.
> >
> > Why won't it?  As I understand it, it will still show up in the exact
> > same spot it shows up in Bach's artist page right now.  Or is there
> > something blatantly obvious that I'm missing?
>
> Possibly the fact that while the album will show up in the artist page
> on musicbrainz.org, the album likely *won't* show up under Bach in
> album/artist organized music players out there.
>
>
> Actually, in some hypothetical idyllic future, I think the correct way
> to do this is to independently store the composer and performer as
> attributes of the album in the musicbrainz db.  Then it's up to an
> option / heuristics in the tagger app as to which db field gets
> shoehorned into the Artist metatdata field on the audio file.
> NextGenerationScheme may be capable of this, I haven't had a chance to
> look at the details enough to know.
>
> --
> David Gibson                    | I'll have my music baroque, and my code
> david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au  | minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_
> _other_
>                                 | _way_ _around_!
> http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson
>

Exactly.

Christopher, the problem is that because of historical reasons (mp3
tagging), MB currently has a vague (but important) concept of ARTIST and a
much more precise (but historically recent and not currently fully
exploited) concept of composer and composer (using ARs). As long as we don't
get rid of the ARTIST (or rather push it back to it's proper place, that is
a field only useful for mp3 tagging), we will fight over silly issues such
as this one. The problem here is that one field is not enough. even composer
/ performer would not be enough. For a simple release such as this one, it
might, but what about a concerto? Should the ARTIST be the composer, the
conductor, the orchestra, the soloist? Every opinion is equally valid, and
even you will say different things at different times.

The nest MB database structure will offer a mush better structure, but until
then we should be careful to enter data as coherently as possible. This is
necessary in order to limit the painfulness (does this word exist?) of the
conversion between the current structure and NGS.

-- 
Frederic Da Vitoria
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/attachments/20061003/9aaf1b57/attachment-0001.htm