[mb-style] RFC: Transl(iteration-ation) AR (Resurrection).

[Chris Bransden]

On 12/10/06, Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2006/10/12, Chris Bransden <chris at whenironsattack.com>:
> > sorry i'm lost now. i'm not sure what working out the original has to
> > do with releasetypes? take this release:
> > Pink (JP): http://musicbrainz.org/release/4a3d60d3-90ea-4a90-938a-06b2aee41bd3.html
> > it was released in the US with translated titles:
> > Pink (US): http://musicbrainz.org/release/e724a07e-4a6b-41e4-95d1-fe9b25d91c3e.html
> > Pink (JP) would be the 'original' in the AR (the band are from Japan),
> > but both are official, pressed versions, so both would be ReleaseType:
> > Official.
> >
> > now, say it was never released in the US, but instead someone
> > translated the titles and put them up on a fansite. the AR would still
> > be the same, but Pink (US) would now be ReleaseType:
> > Alternate/Transl(iter)ation, as no official versions exists with those
> > titles.
> >
> > My concern is that Pink (US) is a "Transl(iter)ation" in both
> > scenarios, so maybe using "Transl(iter)ation" as the ReleaseType would
> > mean people would use it even if it was an official release.
>
> Getting closer! Pink (US) and Pink (JP) are currently different
> releases. This is currently justified(?) by the fact that for example,
> I couldn't recognize Pink (JP) as such (since the characters appear as
> "??" in my browser and I don't read japanese anyhow.
>
> Now when the same thing happened to a Yes (UK / US) or Sting (OK / US)
> album, the us and ok releases are not separated, just added to the
> release events of the unique release.

ah but if they had different tracklistings (say, for words that are
spelt differently in the UK/US - eg colour/color, not that i've ever
seen that happen!), then they would get seperate entries. it's the
same deal - we merge releases when the tracklist is the same, but an
official transl(iter)ation means that they aren't by definition.

> So seperating releases by language is not a MB recommendation,
> separating Latin / Japanese / Cyrillic / Arabic / whatever releases is
> just the only way we can currently solve our problems. So I am not
> sure saying that using an A/T AR for Pink (US) would be a bad thing.

i'm not saying that either?? i'm lost again :)