[mb-style] ClassicalReleaseArtistStyle - seems to have passed!

[Dave Smey]

I'm actually planning to get out of MB, because it is driving me freakin'
crazy, but I'm not sleeping anyway and I've got one good argument left in
me.

On Fri, October 20, 2006 10:34 pm, Ryan McCabe said:
>
> Guidelines are great when they work, but it's foolish to apply them
> when it's not pragmatic.

<big snip>

> So if you change that, not only do cause the
> release information to diverge significantly from facts about releases,
> but you violate the principle of least surprise. If you're going to that,
> in my opinion, you had better have a good practical reason for doing so.
>

The reason why a rule that states that "when a release contains works by
only one composer, that composer should be the release artist" is
practical is that it is objective.  Once someone understands the rule they
know where a classical recording will be filed, based on the contents. 
There is no ambiguity.

OTOH, you want things to be filed "where most people who expect them." 
That's really a function of how famous the artist is and how it is
marketed.

So, I'm either looking for a release or trying to enter a new one.  I've
got to decide where to put it - under the composer or under the performer.
 Under your way of doing things, I've got to worry about how famous the
performer is!  Sure, Kronos, Yo-Yo Ma, Glenn Gould are really famous and
attract lots of fans, but how famous is Maurizio Pollini?  Tokyo String
Quartet?  Isthak Perlman?   I have no idea, really, and I don't want to
have to worry about it.

Sure, a popular performer like Kronos will attract more misplaced edits. 
But that's what peer editing is for - you know how to use the merge
button.

You also say my edits "ignore the facts" about the release.  The facts
seem to be that Kronos 4tet is the performer, and Riley (or Glass or Tan
Dun) is the composer.  Given those facts, the guide specifies where it
goes.

And, I still think your behavior was poor.  You've apparently been around
here for a while and so you know that the edit dialogue is not the place
to debate what the rules should be.  And, I think if you see it from my
point of view, taking it to the IRC (which I don't use) rather than
bringing it up here (which I explicitly invited you to do) was also rude. 
AND, it is unfair to claim that we passed this guideline under dead of
night - there was an RFC about it that lasted for 2 weeks - you clearly
never bothered to check it out.

There.  I feel a little better.  A good time to make my exit, I suppose.

-DS

And, I still think your behavior was poor.