[mb-style] Setting Classical Release Artists to Performers

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

On Feb 5, 2008 9:09 PM, Aaron Cooper <cooperaa at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4-Feb-08, at 12:54 AM, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
> > Aaron:
> >
> > Thank you for your reply.  Let me focus on the issue of performer
> > discographies.
> >
> >
> > Aaron Cooper-3 wrote:
> >>
> >> One of the points of the proposal is to build performer discographies
> >> (something we don't have with just ARs).
> >>
> >> .... I think I've said it before, but it will be a lot more
> >> manageable to
> >> maintain discographies of 15 of your favourite performers than
> >> maintain the discography of every Bach CD ever recorded ever in
> >> history - ever. ...
> >>
> >
> > I don't understand why the MB.org web UI can't build performer
> > discographies, assuming that performer ARs are in the database.
> >
> > Here is how the web search would go:
> > 1. Get user to identify artist A for which we are to build
> > discography.
> > 2. Get all artist-track ARs (l_artist_track) with linktype (id) of
> > "performed instrument" or "performed vocal" and artist A.  Call this
> > set of
> > ARs T2.
> > 3. From links in T2, get the Track records referred to in each link.
> > Call
> > this set of Tracks T3.
> > 4. Get all Tracks for which the TrackArtist is A. Call this set of
> > links T4.
> > 5. From the Tracks in the set union T3 + T4, get their releases.
> > Call this
> > set of Releases R5.
> > 6. Get all release-track ARs (l_album_artist) with linktype (id) of
> > "performed instrument" or "performed vocal" and artist A.  Call this
> > set of
> > links R6.
> > 7. For each release in the set union R5 + R6, extract the records
> > you want
> > in a discography (e.g. a link to Release record, label, catalogue
> > number,
> > release date, etc.)
> > 8. Make a pretty web page out of the results of #7.
> >
> > Assuming that the ARs involving artist A have been entered for each
> > release
> > and track, wouldn't this be the artist discography?
> >
> > For artists who do their work as part of the group, you could modify
> > this by
> > looking up all artist-artist ARs l_artist_artist of type "is a
> > member of" or
> > other collaboration relations, which have artist A as one linked
> > entity, and
> > take all the other entities from the ARs, and call that set of Artist
> > records A2. Then do the above with the set union A + A2.  This
> > should, for
> > example, find all Releases which Placido Domingo was an opera
> > soloist in, as
> > well as all releases of his little-known "ska bel canto" nightclub
> > group.
> >
> > Based on my looking at the MB database, this should be possible to
> > implement
> > as a search.
> >
> > Would this be what you are after?
>
> While discographies are important and we *could* (but don't currently)
> build discographies using ARs, the Release Artist is also an important
> aspect.  We implemented release artists so the track artists could
> differ and so releases could be filed under appropriate artists.  In
> the same way, there are Release Artist fields in our metadata and
> media players use these.
>
> I'm looking forward to discographies, but I also want to give credit
> to performers who put out albums (and should be considered release
> artists).


I agree, but as equals. Performers are certainly not above composers IMO.

-- 
Frederic Da Vitoria
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