[mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Release Title

Jim DeLaHunt from.nabble at jdlh.com
Thu Feb 14 20:56:57 UTC 2008



Brian Schweitzer wrote:
> 
> Trying to clean out the last of the issues...
> 
> Classical Release Titles:
> 
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ClassicalReleaseTitleStyle
> 
> Presents a structure of:
> 
> MainTitle [SubTitle(s)] [VolumeNumber [VolumeTitle]] [ [?BoxNumber
> [?BoxTitle]] DiscNumber [DiscTitle]] [FeaturingArtist]
> 
> ... [snip] ...
> 1) Example like
> http://musicbrainz.org/release/3261a468-953d-4dba-817e-a18e1d1e98b4.html
> where the work mentioned (Symphony 9) is actually only a single
> movement from the symphony.
> 
> - My sense, there's no link, but if the title on the box was "The Best
> of Beethoven", that should be the title, and not us cramming the rest
> in - and thus, no need to worry about this.  :)
> 
> 2) Example like
> http://musicbrainz.org/release/37c3923f-2e6a-4ae8-898e-8201e96fe24e.html
> where cooperaa asked on the wiki on 1/31: "Should releases that simply
> say "The 5 Piano Concertos" or "The 9 Symphonies" etc be changed to
> "Piano Concertos Nos. 5" or "Symphonies Nos. 1-9"?"
> 
> - For myself, see my answer to #1 - the work clearly shows a title of
> "The 5 Piano Concertos" on the box...  I'd reserve applying any CSG
> structuring of the title for
> those that fail to provide a title.  (eg: "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart"
> and no title on the liner) - just glancing at that same stack of 22 or
> so classical CDs next to my desk, that single example would be the
> only one thus in need of any special "titling".
> ...
> As I guess is clear, I agree with the unsigned comment in #4 of CSGD (...)
> - imho, normalization of the release title should be a last resort where
> there truly is no release title.  CSG ought to provide framework where no
> common framework exists.  While this is true of works, it
> isn't true for the vast majority of release titles.  Taking a "hands off"
> approach, albeit with minor guidance (see item #5 above) also has the
> benefit of being essentially cat-corner-free.  :)
> 

Brian, I share your inclination to use the title printed on the physical
Release unless there's a strong reason to meddle with it — for example, if
the release doesn't supply a meaningful title.

Thus I disagree with the phrasing "The ReleaseTitle should contain the names
of the works on the release followed by the performer information." at the
start of ClassicalReleaseTitleStyle. Also the phrase "For ClassicalMusic,
the MainTitle is typically the name of the MusicalWork or works on the
Relase."

Most of the rest of the article is about defining what MainTitle to impose
once you've thrown out the title printed on the physical Release.

What was the rationale for overriding the release title and putting in a
list of works in the first place? Does anyone remember?


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