[mb-style] RFC: StylePrinciple Reasoning

Philip Jägenstedt philip at foolip.org
Sat Feb 16 10:01:21 UTC 2008


I agree that it fits better under ArtistIntent, or at the very least
no worse than under StylePrinciple. If no one thinks it's a terrible
idea to move it I'll make an RFV to change the wording and move it in
one.

Philip

On 2/16/08, Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  >>  Having read http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/StylePrinciple I thought the
> >  >>  "Reasoning" section was pretty poorly phrased.
> >  >>
> >  >>  Current:
> >  >>
> >  >>  There are enough cases of record companies mucking up track listings
> >  >>  or even artist names (see some of the Front Line Assembly releases
> >  >>  sometime), or creating new imaginary words for stylistic purposes that
> >  >>  it makes much more sense to fix these things. I think that we
> >  >>  generally value spelling and punctuation correctness over cover
> >  >>  accuracy.
> >  >>
> >  >>  Suggestion:
> >  >>
> >  >>  There are many cases of record companies making errors with track
> >  >>  titles or even artist names (e.g. some of the Front Line Assembly
> >  >>  releases), or creating new imaginary words for stylistic purposes. In
> >  >>  such cases it often makes sense to fix the errors, valuing spelling
> >  >>  and punctuation correctness over cover accuracy.
> >  >>
> >  >
> >  > I like the new wording much better, though, perhaps StylePrinciple is
> >  > not even the right page for it?  Actually, that entire exception
> >  > section would seem to be defining elements of ArtistIntent - some of
> >  > the examples are even the same.  I don't really see how spelling,
> >  > punctuation, or grammer really has anything to do with the ordering of
> >  > philosophies; all three are much more "do we change it or is
> >  > intentional" issues covered by ArtistIntent.  To my mind, the entire
> >  > page could/should stop just above that section, with that entire
> >  > section moved to ArtistIntent.
> >  >
> >  > Brian
> >  I agree with the proposed change.
> >
> >  Probably not the last bit from Brian, though. I don't think normalising
> >  capitalisation and applying formatting to feats and remix info has that
> >  much to do with ArtistIntent. These are our own MB-agreed ways to apply
> >  "structure" to titles, which can't really be associated with artists,
> >  can they? An overlap, definitely, but not in entirety.
> >
> >  Chad / voiceinsideyou
>
> I've moved the section over for the moment - take a read through each
> page now, and see if you still think so.  Apart from Don's comment
> about intertwingling being needed, at least as I read it, that entire
> section makes a whole lot more sense now, in the context of AI and not
> the ordering of the four principles.  If not, we can revert the two
> pages.
>
> Brian
>
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