[mb-style] CSG

[Lukáš Lalinský]

On Po, 2008-02-25 at 18:28 -0500, Brian Schweitzer wrote:
> If I can be forgiven replying to all three at the same, I think they
> boil down to the same thing:

[...]

> and luks wrote:
> 
> >  MusicBrainz, at the moment, is a database of releases. That means
> >  release titles and track titles. The track titles are usually not 100%
> >  copies of liner notes, they are somehow standardized, but they are still
> >  just track titles. There is no difference between classical and
> >  non-classical here. Of course this is very far from ideal for classical,
> >  but you just have to accept the fact that track titles in MB are not
> >  work titles. I work in most of my free time on making it possible to add
> >  musical works to MB. It will probably take some time until it happens,
> >  but starting (or continue?) to treat tracks like works will definitely
> >  not help it.

[...]

> These all then seem to argue for eliminating CSG.

Then you read mine wrong - "The track titles are usually not 100% copies
of liner notes, they are somehow standardized, but they are still just
track titles." - the standardized part for classical releases means CSG.
But a CSG that respects the fact that track titles are track titles, not
work titles. Changing CSG to handle complete work titles is what I see
happening, and I don't think it's a good idea.

> CSG by it's very nature disregards what is on the liner.  No matter where
> we source the data from, that's what it boils down to.

I disagree. Except for random semi-classical compilations, classical
releases usually have enough data in liner notes to identify which works
they contain. So for usual releases you can simply take that
information, apply CSG and add it to MB. We should try to make it easier
for people to add releases, not harder (and in any case not require
people to study the works in question in order to add a release to MB).
Once we have a database schema that can handle more than track titles,
we can link them to works with all the detailed information, but for now
we have only track titles...

Lukas

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