[mb-style] CSG

[Chris B]

2008/2/29 Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer at gmail.com>:
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Chris B <chris at whenironsattack.com> wrote:
>  > 2008/2/29 Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer at gmail.com>:
>  >
>  > > >  it doesn't matter if the language varies across the official release.
>  >  >  >  you can always use cherry pick the titles/track titles in a specific
>  >  >  >  language to use in a pseudo release.
>  >  >
>  >  >  But, as Oliver spent quite some time months back drilling into my
>  >  >  stubborn head (lol), that's not what a pseudo-release *is*.
>  >
>  >  hmm? what is it, then :)
>  >
>  >  as far as i know, and as far as the documentation reads...a pseudo
>  >  release is an entity in musicbrainz that holds a particular
>  >  language/script for a tracklist found on another *actual* release.
>  >  this variant could be an official alternative (on the liner but not on
>  >  the tracklist, or on the official site), or a fansub, provided it
>  >  serves the purpose. so for every *actual* release, you could link a
>  >  number of psuedo releases translating it into whatever language you
>  >  fancy, or you could link other *actual* releases in different
>  >  languages/scripts, if they are available.
>  >
>  >  if i'm wrong (very possible!), please show me where on the
>  >  documentation it shows that. otherwise i think you need to bring
>  >  whatever concerns you have with pseudo releases to a new thread.
>
>  What you're describing is correct for the transl*ation AR.
>
> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/TranslationTransliterationRelationshipType
>   But it's not correct for the pseudo-release status.  "A
>  pseudo-release is a duplicate release for translation/transliteration
>  purposes."  http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/ReleaseStatus  That is, it's a
>  MusicBrainz-construct, specifically distinguished from an Official
>  release.
>
>  If the liner shows German, French, and English, all three are
>  "official" releases, whether only one is entered or all three are.

no i disagree with your interpretation.

"If the album has tracks listed in duplicate languages, both languages
will be tagged and the ReleaseStatus will be set to "Official". All
other versions that don't reflect the album itself will be classified
as "Pseudo-Release" even if the track listing on these pseudo-releases
are identical to one of languages on the "official" album it is still
not THE "official" release that had both languages."

i think this is clear - one MBz official release holds all printed
titles, and other pseudo releases can be added to hold
transl(iter)ations as required, be those from official or unofficial
sources.

if a release has an overloaded selection of transliterations given the
same priority on the tracklist (which i've so far not seen an example
of), then common sense predicts that we would probably have to pick
one to use for the official release, but no where does any guideline
say we would outright duplicate one physical release into multiple
non-psuedo MBz releases.

panda's http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/WhatDefinesAUniqueRelease also follows this