[mb-style] Composition/Performer/Production ARs at Release or Track level?

Brian Schweitzer brian.brianschweitzer at gmail.com
Wed Jan 2 16:02:32 UTC 2008


>
> I've like to ask you to not do this. Currently we have the data we have,
> and we can say they are correct. If you move all of them automatically
> to tracks, you will add many incorrect ARs to the database. Leave this
> to people who actually know about the releases/tracks.
>

Sure, ok, I won't do it.  :)

Now what this tells me is something interesting, especially that there were
3 messages saying essentially the same thing all so quickly following my
email.  It's essentially the same thing luks tried to say to me in IRC last
night, which, once I'd thought on it, convinced me to change my mind.

In essence what these three messages imply is this:

Even for editors who are willing to state that they 100% never varied from
viewpoint #1, and only ever added release-level ARs if the ARs applied to
every single track, people still don't want those ARs auto-converted to
track-level ARs.  In essence, even in the absolute most extreme case of
viewpoint #1, people still view that data as suspect, or at least, in need
of verification before those ARs are attached to tracks.

In other words, any release-level AR, no matter who added it, is
automatically viewed as being fuzzy, even if the editor is categorically
willing to say that he or she has never added a fuzzy release level AR.

In even simpler terms?  Viewpoint #2 is already in effect, no matter what
those of us using Viewpoint #1 thought.  It just then remains for us to
actually put that into a guideline, so everyone knows exactly what is going
on.

Different subject now.  :)  Let's assume for the moment that all of this is
already debated and decided, as I expect it will be, in favor of putting
some version of the proposal in place.  Just so it's out there and has had a
chance to be debated here, rather than in edit notes some time in the
future, what do people think of these 2 corallaries?

1) Once a release level AR has been clarified (de-fuzzified :P) to the track
level, it can be removed from the release level.

2) Once an AR is in at the appropriate tracks at the track level, it ought
to not still exist in fuzzy form at the release level.

Both seem obvious, but I can see someone deciding that a) they should go on
a spree of adding ARs to release-levels, just because the same AR is in the
tracks, or b) remove AR edits for release-level ARs failing because they are
still correct, even after the ARs have been moved to the track level.  Just
seems cleaner if we decide it all here, rather than leaving part of the
debate to be less-cleanly decided in edit notes later.  :)

All credit to luks, btw, for putting up with my arguments in IRC and
changing my mind on all this.  :)

Brian
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