[mb-style] [Clean up CSG] Cadenzas, ornamentation,
and introductions
Frederic Da Vitoria
davitofrg at gmail.com
Fri Jan 25 18:25:03 UTC 2008
On Jan 25, 2008 5:56 PM, Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >> That seems reasonable to me, though following your first structure,
> wouldn't
> >> it be this?
> >>
> >> Concerto No. 12 in A major for Piano, K. 385p/414: II. Andante
> >> (Introduction: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, K. 626aI/29 / KV 624/11,
> Cadenza:
> >> Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, K. 626aI/31 / KV 624/9)
> >>
> >Yes, I left it out since Mozart composed the "main title". Thinking
> >one could assume it's Mozart's cadenzas if not stated otherwise?
>
> Seems a reasonable assumption, especially if we do then have an AR that we
> can use to make them fully explanatory.
>
> >> new track-artist ARs for classical things
> >> "track has introduction by foo"
> >> "track has cadenza by foo"
> >> "track has ornamentation by foo"
> >> "track is/was (additionally) reconstructed by foo"
> >> "track is/was (additionally) completed by foo"
> >> "track has libretto by foo"
> >
> >I'll second most of these ("introduction" was new to me tho) but
> >"ornamentation"? Sounds like what the interpreter does when
> >performing, or maybe the editor if it's written ornaments. Maybe I'm
> >not getting it. Do you have an example?
>
> For Introduction it may also be that I'm mis-translating "Eingang" from
> German ("Input"? "Importation"? "Entrance"? "Prelude"?) One example at
> http://dme.mozarteum.at/DME/objs/ed/ucbif_231_106.jpg Not really
> something I know much about; it seems to have come about around the same
> time as the introduction of cadenzas. There's a few mentions at
> http://etd.lib.fsu.edu/theses/available/etd-10272004-130500/unrestricted/01_PR_Prelims.pdf- the names are familiar (Levin, Beyer, etc, all do a lot of Mozart-related
> work) - unfortunately, there's no text, just a TOC and list of figures. I'm
> not seeing much via google (filtering isn't much help) - several distinct
> movements titled Eingang, but in the "Overture" sense.
>
> As for ornamentation (German, "Gesangskadenzen"), there's only one in
> Mozart's Kochel list; K. 293e (Ornamentation Cadenza for Johann Christian
> Bach: Adriano in Siria, T 211: Aria "Cara, la dolce fiamma"), but the volume
> its in at NMA isn't online yet, so I can't link to it. There's a bit of
> discussion of these at http://www.dolmetsch.com/musictheory23.htm
>
What about leaving out introductions and ornementations? Both seem pretty
rare and the word "introduction" can lead to confusions. This would
complicate CSG unnecessarily. If someone stumbles on one of these, a little
discussion at that time should solve the problem.
--
Frederic Da Vitoria
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