[mb-style] Guest performances again
Bram van Dijk
bram_van_dijk at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 3 09:14:29 UTC 2008
Well, http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PerformerRelationshipType says
literally that
*"additional" and "guest"*
There is no guideline yet that specifies what /exactly/ these two are for.
These seem to overlap a little. I suppose that "*additional*" should
designate performers who did not play a main role in the performance.
While "*guest*" designates performers who are not usual members of the
group that performed, say, the whole release, but only appear on one track.
So, personally, I only add them if the liners explicitly say "guest" or
"additional".
Bram / jongetje
Philip Jägenstedt schreef:
> Very well, if nobody really cares either way then I will edit the way
> that looks "pretty" to me.
>
> Philip
>
> On 3/3/08, Lauri Watts <krazykiwi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Philip Jägenstedt <philip at foolip.org> wrote:
>> > If I understand the both of you correctly, we have a situation where
>> > different editors are interpreting this differently.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if it's true or not, but let's assume that Madonna
>> > doesn't have a standard group of musicians which record all her albums
>> > and that different drummer are used on different albums. Chris would
>> > use "performed guest drums" AR:s while Lauri would use "performed
>> > drums" on Madonna's albums. Correct?
>> >
>> > To me, "guest drums" in such a situation is about as sensible as
>> > "guest composed". I think "guest" should imply at least some level of
>> > special status, even if not necessarily noted as "guest" in the
>> > liners. If the artist is somehow noted on the cover (duet with Artist
>> > Foo) then that would probably be "guest" (and a feat. in most cases).
>> > I don't know if I'm making any sense, does anybody else see a problem
>> > here?
>>
>>
>> I don't really think this one's a big problem. I don't think most of
>> us really care if the 'guest' or not is used, nor if the attribute
>> disappeared entirely or was retroactively automatically applied to
>> every AR that doesn't have it.
>>
>> Sometimes it's unclear what we'll need when a new feature is
>> implemented, and things we think will be vital turn out to not be,
>> after a few thousand edits are done. I suspect this is one of them.
>> In hindsight, I don't know why we didn't make 'featured' one of the
>> attributes. Picard is certainly smart enough now to pick that up (it
>> already does from the track titles, with the appropriate plugin.)
>>
>> I've never seen anyone arguing about the guest attribute though (and
>> we certainly like to argue about things around here.)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Lauri Watts
>>
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