[mb-style] Bach passions and CSG

[Leiv Hellebo]

Just trying to clean up some issues:

Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Leiv Hellebo wrote:
>     And: My two SMPs have together 103 + 101 = 204 tracks, so you probably
>     want to start with searching for releases, not tracks :)
> 
> 
> Please don't use poor quality data as a proof!

I don't, really: Even if they were all done to your content, I'd still 
advise you to search for releases, to relieve you of wading through 
dozens of pages to find all releases...

Like Brant pointed out elsewhere, the cat.no. is useful to help get all 
translations. (For the SMP it is quite easy to search for "Matt" on 
Bach's ArtistPage, but this is not so for Zauberflöte and others. We'll 
have to wait for works here...)

It is ironic to recall that adding the cat.no. to opera tracks was my 
suggestion 
(http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/OperaTrackStyle?action=recall&rev=1). When 
I see it used, I really regret it :( I said that at a time I believed in 
tagger scripts that could fix this according to user preferences.

> 
>     If some label spent a fortune to have professional scholars and
>     performers dig out and record unknown stuff from obscure composers, then
>     most likely it would also result in online references that would be
>     helpful.
> 
> 
>     My mail concerned Bach passions. It is not so common to mention the BWVs
>     for them (and I know I have Händel oratorios which do not mention the
>     HWVs - I recently checked some - yet this is *never* a problem).
> 
> 
> Well, you know that this is contrary to the CSG?
> 

Leaving out the cat.no. for oratorios is not contrary to the CSG, as 
they're not part of work names.

Isn't it also so that in older days, leaving out the workname was quite 
acceptable for large choral works and operas? Were this considered a 
capital offense back in 2004?

> 
>     I can very well see myself adding those Händel cantatas exactly as they
>     are on that release.
> 
>     For Bach cantatas it is perhaps possible to shorten it more, as the
>     religious ones are titled after the first text line:
> 
>     BWV 172, I. Coro: Erschallet, ihr Lieder, erklinget, ihr Saiten!
>     II. Recitativo: Wer mich liebet, der wird mein Wort halten
>     III. Aria: Heiligste Dreieinigkeit
> 
>     or something...
> 
> 
> Ah, so it would apply only to the SMP? I hate exceptions.
> 

No, not only for the SMP. The problems with the information overload is 
especially salient for the SMP, so what I wanted to discuss for now was 
the passions.

I do feel guilty for going against the official style guide. Please 
consider it a crime of conscience...


Leiv