[mb-style] NGS RFC: spurious works (& the Artist field)

Leiv Hellebo leiv.hellebo at gmail.com
Thu Apr 8 05:46:29 UTC 2010


Brian Schweitzer wrote:
> I don't quite follow; I use many of those same sources, but I do see 
> them using composer, not performers...

I am talking about the tags they have used in the files

> 
> http://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=979527

releasetitle contains composer

can't say what they use for artist for SDG releases, I've only bought 
from a couple of labels from them, but they had composer in reltitle and 
performers as artists

> http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/al.asp?al=CDA67764

releasetitle contains composer, tracks have
Chopin: Piano Sonata No 3 in B minor, Op 58:  Movement 1: Allegro maestoso

etc

> http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=WH%200032&ta=2 
> <http://www.theclassicalshop.net/Details.aspx?CatalogueNumber=WH%200032&ta=2>

I have only bought slightly older Chandos releases from them, they 
*really* need fixing, release title was Chandos cat.nos. (CHAN 9647)

> http://www.brilliantclassics.com/release.aspx?id=FM00028623

can you download from brilliantclassics? I have never done so

> http://www2.deutschegrammophon.com/webseries/?ID=abbado-pergolesi&PRODUCT_NR=4778463 
> <http://www2.deutschegrammophon.com/webseries/?ID=abbado-pergolesi&PRODUCT_NR=4778463>

dgwebshop puts conductor, soloist, orchestra in artist field

> http://www.classical.com/album/POA0849

never tried. Did tracks from this release have Robert Schumann as 
release and track artist?

> http://www.classicalm.com/

never seen before

> or even in lists, such as http://www.classical.net/music/guide/opera.php


> 
> In just about any case I run into, the composer is most prominent,

of course it would be insane to not allow customers browse by composer. 
Good sites make it easy to browse both by artist and composer.

  with
> the artists perhaps separately listed or listed in smaller font.  But in 
> any case, I think classical is tagged in such non-standard ways, 
> wherever it came from, that we shouldn't be concerned about how anyone 
> else puts the data into tags.   I'd much rather find ways to make ARs
> easier to enter, so that more people enter them and perhaps in some 
> future time we could browse using ARs, rather than any particular 
> "artist" concept.

ARs are fine and all for users like me who use MB heavily, and yes, the 
most important thing for quality data is to make it easy to enter them. 
The problem is that MB classical tags are an all-or-nothing affair as 
mixing them makes it hard to search for stuff, is the composer in the 
artist field or in the release field?

Leiv / leivhe



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