[mb-style] CSGv2 - track/recording artists

[symphonick]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 10:17:36 +0100, Frederic Da Vitoria  
<davitofrg at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2010/12/30 Brian Schweitzer <brian.brianschweitzer at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm still working on the draft for CSGv2.  I've finished the text for  
>> the
>> artist for a track/recording; I don't think it makes any significant
>> changes, but just tries to lay out what we've done and decided.   
>> However,
>> I'm interested to see if anyone sees any issues with that text, before  
>> I go
>> further with the other two CSG artist pages.
>>
>> http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Proposal:CSGv2/Recording/Artist
>>
>
> I suggest adding at least an example of each item of the first list.  
> Maybe
> Mozart's Requiem or Chopin's concertos, for variations I couldn't find
> anything better than Brahm's variations on a Theme by Haydn, and Ravel's
> orchestration of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition. The last seems
> specially important to me because MB considers that Ravel's  
> orchestration is
> a Mussorgsky Work (I don't have any issue with that), whil many music  
> shops
> would put such performances under Ravel.
>
> I suggest adding an example for non-classical performers, but I never
> listened to any such performance (I should some day), so that I am  
> unable to
> say where they should fit. In the paragraph starting with "Thus, if the
> artist is essentially", I'd replace the three occurrences of "the artist  
> is"
> with "the performer is".
>


For my taste, it's too long & too technical. IMHO we must write these  
pages with the non-csg-expert in mind.

Also, is this really important outside CSG-works? I mean, we're saying  
"use what's on the liner" for titles, why not for composer too? Can't we  
get a CSG-approved composer by linking to the correct work?

A (much) shorter version, for discussion:

Not-so-long CSG for Tracks and Recordings: Track/Recording Artist

The artist should be the composer(s) of the performed work, with the  
exception of tracks performed by "non-classical" artists.

Examples:

[an easy example]

[Mussorgsky's Gnomes]
*: Use the composer, not the arranger, orchestrator, or instrumentator.

[a variation example - what does the liner say?]

[examples for non-classical performers]
* Some cases will be able to be interpreted either way. Use what's on the  
liner. If it's unclear, ask in the formum or mailinglist for suggestions.


/symphonick