[mb-style] Packaging types

[Yin Izanami]

What do you mean by "a slim jewel case is the product of more than one
company" / "a super jewel case is the product of only one company"?  Because
"Super Jewel Box" isn't the only company that makes them.

Verbatim also sells them:  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00006OX99
Pentavision, a Korean company, uses them:
http://ruliweb.daum.net/data/rulinews/read.htm?page=&num=17594

I'm curious, have you ever actually held a Super Jewel Case in your hands?
It's not just the "rounded corners" you quote that makes them different from
jewel cases.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alex Mauer <hawke at hawkesnest.net> wrote:

> On 06/20/2011 03:59 PM, Simon Reinhardt wrote:
> > A Slim Jewel Box is a variant of a Jewel Case and yet we have it in
> > the list. :-) To me it's not really a variant of it but a new
> > product, just like the Keep Case is a different product, and it just
> > happens to be made of the same stuff.
> >
> > The cassette one is not a jewel case at all - it's also just made of
> > the same stuff (most times).
>
> They share some obvious similarities beyond the material, though.  The
> Jewel Case basically looks like what you’d come up with if you took a
> cassette case and scaled it to a size appropriate for a CD, and then
> added something to keep it from sliding around and getting scratched.
>
> A Super Jewel Box looks like what you’d get if you saw the problems of
> jewel case hinges breaking and came up with a better hinge system—and
> then made a couple more tweaks because hey, while you’re redesigning it
> you might as well, right?
>
> Now I’m not saying that the Super Jewel Box isn’t an awesome thing (I
> have plenty of CDs with broken hinges), but when the name itself says
> essentially “It’s a jewel case but *better*”, and the marketing gives
> “it has rounded corners” as one of the features that makes it “Super”
> then why argue with that?
>
> I actually feel pretty much the same about the slim jewel case “It’s a
> jewel case, but thinner!” but at least it appears to be an independent
> design and isn’t just a product of one company.
>
> > I can't quite follow your reasoning. Do you aim to only make a
> > difference between materials? Probably not as you don't want
> > differentiate between paper and cardboard sleeve. Different styles of
> > packaging? How specific though? Or just broad generic terms? How
> > generic? Would you rather remove Slim Jewel Case from the list and
> > just have terms like "sleeve", "box", "case"? I just can't quite see
> > where you're going. :-)
>
> I’m trying to be reasonably generic, without being too generic. :-)
>
> And yes, I’d rather remove slim jewel case from the list than try to
> list every company’s own variant on the jewel case
>
> On one extreme we have “sleeve” and “box”
>
> On the other extreme we have levels of specificity which can be left
> only to our imaginations.
>
> I prefer “sleeve” over listing the many materials from which sleeves can
> be made.
>
> I’d prefer “box” which can be used for everything from piano rolls to
> the gold-plated tin box with embossing used on The Super Mega Exclusive
> Awesome Deluxe Edition, over needing half a dozen “box” types just to
> cover the common cases (I can think of “cardboard piano roll box”,
> “cardboard 12-inch vinyl disc box”, “cardboard 7-inch vinyl disc box”,
> and “tin CD box” just among the ones I have which are more than just a
> one-off.
>
> I prefer “Jewel case” which can be used for everything from slim jewel
> cases to polystyrene cassette cases, over “jewel case”, “Super Jewel
> Box”, “Minidisc jewel case”, “Zip disc Jewel Case”, “lift-lock case”[1],
> “eco pack” and a thousand other variations.
>
> > Hm, paper and cardboard are not the same to me so I wouldn't want to
> > reuse paper for cardboard ones. So either we rename paper sleeve to
> > something more generic or we do go into more detail.
>
> I agree, they’re not the same but to me at least there is no clear line
> where “thick paper” becomes “thin cardboard” — any particular release
> would require a judgement call as to which it is.
>
> 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Liftlockcdcase.jpg
>
>
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