[mb-style] RFC: Add Prussia and Russia to list of countries for historical purposes

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

2011/6/24, Lemire, Sebastien <mail at benji99.ca>:
> So basically if I put my thoughts together:
>
>    1. The current country list for artists is not adequate
>    2. Multiple options/selections should be permitted. This way we can tag
>    for example Catalan&Spanish, Canada&Quebec, Burma&Shan, Laos&Mon,
>    Japan&Ainu, etc... And also situations where an artist has moved or
>    performed significantly in an other language or country ie (Teresa Teng -
>    Taiwan&Japan, Igor Stravinsky Russia&USA, Handel Germany&England, etc...)
>    3. The "countries" in the list should be less based on an official
>    country list with their official names and more on "generic" or
> culturally
>    based "countries/regions" to allow such additions as Quebec, Catalans, or
>    others suchs Karens, Mon, Shan (In South-East Asia), Ainu in Japan,
> etc...
>    Basically both nationality and cultural identity.
>    4. The current country list with the addition of many historical
>    countries will be perfect for tagging accurate location info such as
> country
>    of birth, death, recording location, etc..
>
> I think this would better represent to where an artist belongs to, or how
> he/she/it could/should be categorized in MB.
>
> Also, I was thinking it would also be nice to tag which languages the artist
> mainly performed in. This way all French singers (part of the Francophonie)
> could be grouped and categorized together (independently of their country of
> origin France, Belgium, Canada, etc..).  This would allow us to categorize
> singers that have a common language as a bonding factor rather than cultural
> or national identity.

You could also mention all those artists who sing in English although
English is not their first language :-)


> This information could quite possibly be extracted from the releases and
> tracks associated to them since we always tag the release language (The VA
> albums would probably need to be excluded as they would contaminate the
> data)
>
> Any comments??

What about using of ARs? This may mean some programming because I
don't think countries are currently used for any AR, but it should be
technically possible and it would allow to use dates. We could have a
Birth Country AR, a Home Country AR, a Nationality AR and so on. But
we could as well decide to create only one AR for all of these if we
decide using all would be too much.

> Sebastien
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Frederic Da Vitoria
> <davitofrg at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> 2011/6/24, Lemire, Sebastien <mail at benji99.ca>:
>> >> But the thing is nobody recognizes Catalonia as an independent state,
>> >> not even the Catalans (except a minority of independentists). And this
>> >> opens the door to many other discussions: if someone identifies with a
>> >> (totally) invented country, what do we do? Is Dr. Octagon from
>> >> Jupiter? :p
>> >
>> > Haha in fact, I'm French-Canadian and I was thinking it would be nice to
>> be
>> > able to tag french-canadian artists as Quebec, or Quebecois. To me,
>> there's
>> > a distinct difference between quebecois and non-quebecois artists. And
>> also,
>> > I'm not even of the minority that wants to separate...
>>
>> Ah, yes, of course, how could I miss this obvious and frequent issue
>> with the strictly administrative way of dealing with this issue :-)

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Frederic Da Vitoria
(davitof)

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