[mb-users] Tagger fixes: now what?

Cristov Russell wolfsong at endlessforest.net
Wed Aug 4 21:10:40 UTC 2004


Robert

I'll be glad to help test as much as I can. I'm running an XP Pro box.

Cristov (wolfsong)


--- Robert Kaye <rob at eorbit.net> wrote:
On Aug 3, 2004, at 11:49 AM, Don Redman wrote:
>>> Will the new tager Picard be able to tell the server "Thanks for the 
>>> bunch of tracks, that match this TRM. I chose the one with MB-ID: 
>>> ..."?
>>
>> This will be part of the work I promised to carry out in Aug -- on 
>> which I will be starting next week.
>
> Cool :-)

So, last night instead of going to sleep my brain insisted on thinking 
about the changes I would need to make to the Tagger next week to get 
it to a more reasonable state. The following needs to get done to patch 
up the tagger to live until the next tagger becomes mature:

1. Give feedback on TRMs -- this makes total sense. This will improve 
the quality of lookups over time.
2. Easing the load on the TRM server -- since the TRM server is 
hopelessly overloaded we need to change how the tagger does its work. 
For instance, the tagger should always start with a metadata lookup 
before it does a TRM calculation. If a metadata match is close, then it 
should not bother calculating a TRM.
3. Provide a way for a user to locally override the data for a given 
track -- this should reduce the urge for people to go and submit 
non-album tracks.

These are the big three things that I see that need to get done. Then I 
started thinking about how much time it would take to implement these 
and that is where I start to get stuck. #2 and #3 are already part of 
the Picard tagger, so doing this work again would be mostly wasted 
effort. I'm thinking that adding #1 to the Picard tagger and then 
focusing on getting the tagger to work right on Windows first, seems 
like the best way to get these goals accomplished. And it should fit 
inside the 2 week window I have to work on this retrofitting the old 
tagger may take a bit longer than that.

So, my goal would be to release a Picard tagger with TRM feedback 
support in about 2.5 weeks and then start pushing that tagger on the 
site. This would get more people to give us feedback on the new picard 
tagger and would allow us to deprecate the old tagger. I would need 
some serious testing help from people here. Anyone with a Win2000 and 
XP box willing to dedicate some time to this?

What do you think of this plan?

Now on a related note, Scott Wheeler, the author of Juk has mentioned 
to me that next release (after the upcoming one) will support CD 
Ripping (cue Mr. Munro here!) and could easily be adjusted to submit 
TRMs for ripped CDs. Perhaps if we get this functionality into other 
rippers then we could change our policy to only accepting TRMs that 
were ripped from CDs. This should further improve the quality of our 
TRM collection over time.

Any thoughts on that idea?
--

--ruaok              Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot.

Robert Kaye     --     rob at eorbit.net     --    http://mayhem-chaos.net

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