[mb-users] Tagger fixes: now what?
joe at emenaker.com
Mon Aug 9 22:05:05 UTC 2004
John Carter wrote:
>What about vinyl rips? We list them as an album. (though admittedly
>their TRMs aren't going to be very reliable)
I think you just answered your own question, there. If the TRM's aren't
going to be reliable.... do we want them?
>And some internet-only releases can sensibly be grouped into albums.
>Wasn't the idea that known-good straight-from-the-cd trms be given
>some sort of "gold" status, but we'd still accept & use normal trms?
Right! As Don Redman put it... a "soft" transition. I had figured that
this notion was a given. Anything other than a soft transition would be
catastrophic and would do MB more harm than good.
To be a little more specific about how this would all play out: I
envision the DB accepting both the regular TRMs and the "bona fide" TRMs
for a while. The tagger would "prefer" the bona fide ones.
Oh... also... something I've forgotten to mention up to this point is
this. In most cases, I think that a cd ripping program would try to
submit a bona-fide TRM which *already* existed as a non-bona-fide one.
In that case, the non-bona-fide one would just get "promoted", so to
speak. So, my expectation is that the non-bona-fide pool would start
Then, the DB administrators could keep an eye on how often the
non-bona-fide TRMs were actually being used to tag files as opposed to
the bona-fide ones. Once this ratio became pretty lopsided (to the point
where it seemed that the presence of the non-bona-fide TRMs caused more
harm than good), the non-bona-fide TRMs could be deleted altogether.
Keep in mind that this could be done on a per-artist, per-album, or
Also... now that this idea seems to be gathering steam, what do we want
to *call* these new TRMs? John calls them "gold". Don seems to have
adopted my notion of "bona fide", although that's a bitch to write
often. It would be nice if we had something that was easier to write...
(like, maybe, "nTRM" for "new TRM" or maybe MVT for "Media-verified
TRM"). Any preferences?
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