[mb-users] Tagger fixes: now what?

Joe Emenaker joe at emenaker.com
Mon Aug 9 22:05:05 UTC 2004


John Carter wrote:

>What about vinyl rips?  We list them as an album. (though admittedly
>their TRMs aren't going to be very reliable)
>  
>
I think you just answered your own question, there. If the TRM's aren't 
going to be reliable.... do we want them?

>And some internet-only releases can sensibly be grouped into albums.
>
>Wasn't the idea that known-good straight-from-the-cd trms be given
>some sort of "gold" status, but we'd still accept & use normal trms?
>  
>
Right! As Don Redman put it... a "soft" transition. I had figured that 
this notion was a given. Anything other than a soft transition would be 
catastrophic and would do MB more harm than good.

To be a little more specific about how this would all play out: I 
envision the DB accepting both the regular TRMs and the "bona fide" TRMs 
for a while. The tagger would "prefer" the bona fide ones.

Oh... also... something I've forgotten to mention up to this point is 
this. In most cases, I think that a cd ripping program would try to 
submit a bona-fide TRM which *already* existed as a non-bona-fide one. 
In that case, the non-bona-fide one would just get "promoted", so to 
speak. So, my expectation is that the non-bona-fide pool would start 
shrivelling up.

Then, the DB administrators could keep an eye on how often the 
non-bona-fide TRMs were actually being used to tag files as opposed to 
the bona-fide ones. Once this ratio became pretty lopsided (to the point 
where it seemed that the presence of the non-bona-fide TRMs caused more 
harm than good), the non-bona-fide TRMs could be deleted altogether. 
Keep in mind that this could be done on a per-artist, per-album, or 
per-track basis.

Also... now that this idea seems to be gathering steam, what do we want 
to *call* these new TRMs? John calls them "gold". Don seems to have 
adopted my notion of "bona fide", although that's a bitch to write 
often. It would be nice if we had something that was easier to write... 
(like, maybe, "nTRM" for "new TRM" or maybe MVT for "Media-verified 
TRM"). Any preferences?

- Joe

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