[mb-users] an album has to have bonus tracks to be a remaster?

Frederic Da Vitoria davitofrg at gmail.com
Tue Oct 3 08:58:40 UTC 2006


2006/10/3, Chris Bransden <chris at whenironsattack.com>:
>
> On 02/10/06, Brian Gurtler <brian at gurtler.net> wrote:
> > my example is an album and it's remaster.
> >
> > why have a remaster AR if you can't use it?
>
> well, the vinyl/cassette/etc versions will all have been differently
> mastered also (to wit - all different formats have to be seperately
> mastered - a lot of "remasters" in the 80s were just remastered for CD
> out of neccesity as they couldn't use the vinyl master on that format,
> not without it sounding total, gash anyway), yet traditionally we have
> not added seperate releases for the vinyl/cassette unless the
> tracklist differs.
>
> the PUIDs will be different, yes (will they, though? i know they
> 'sound' different, but i'm not aware of what thresholds PUIDs work
> with), but there's nothing wrong with more than one PUID being on the
> same track. same with CDIDs.
>
> IMO they remasters should all be merged into the same release,
> assuming the tracklist is different
>
> the only time i'd use the remastered AR is to connect 2 releases of
> differing tracklist which contain a remastered release within them (eg
> the remaster probably has bonus tracks). other than that, you're going
> to be tagging with the same tracklist anyway (we don't say "remaster"
> in the ReleaseTitle) so i don't see the benefit?
>
> obviously NGS would change all this.
>

I agree we don't really know if the PUIDs would be different (if a MB user
has both an original and a remaster, maybe she/he could tell). If they don't
differ, then the distinction is meaningless. But if they are different, then
it is important. If we merge the PUIDs now, we won't have any way to
re-separate them when we enter NGS (we won't even know if an old-style MB
release contains PUIDs from different masterings or not). But if we separate
them now and later discover that the PUIDs are identical (and that the
distinction can be considered as meaningless), then we sill still be able to
merge the releases. Furthermore, it will be easy to track such "problems" by
browsing the remaster ARs.

-- 
Frederic Da Vitoria
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