[mb-users] an album has to have bonus tracks to be a remaster?

[P. HarryE. Coenen]

I get your point Chris, and agree it would create user confusion as long as
it cannopt be easily seen in the taggers.
So for the tiem being we probably have to continue grouping everything in
one and the same release.
Except of course when there are bonus tracks (or a different track layout?)

But it is a whole messy area out there!
Collecting just about everything Miles Davis has ever released (official or
not) I see that they often do a considerable amount of rework with the
master tapes, e.g. using a different take for one of the tracks)

I don't know how to cope with this on MB. The average user probably just
wants the metadata for their tags and doesn't want to be confused with to
much details.
One way of doing it would be attaching some kind of likelyhood to the
release, so the average user gets the most likely one, while the crazed out
collector still can go for the detail.

Just another 1c

Cheers

Harry


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[mailto:musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Bransden
Sent: 03 October 2006 09:32
To: brian at gurtler.net; General discussions about MusicBrainz
Subject: Re: [mb-users] an album has to have bonus tracks to be a remaster?

On 02/10/06, Brian Gurtler <brian at gurtler.net> wrote:
> my example is an album and it's remaster.
>
> why have a remaster AR if you can't use it?

well, the vinyl/cassette/etc versions will all have been differently
mastered also (to wit - all different formats have to be seperately mastered
- a lot of "remasters" in the 80s were just remastered for CD out of
neccesity as they couldn't use the vinyl master on that format, not without
it sounding total, gash anyway), yet traditionally we have not added
seperate releases for the vinyl/cassette unless the tracklist differs.

the PUIDs will be different, yes (will they, though? i know they 'sound'
different, but i'm not aware of what thresholds PUIDs work with), but
there's nothing wrong with more than one PUID being on the same track. same
with CDIDs.

IMO they remasters should all be merged into the same release, assuming the
tracklist is different

the only time i'd use the remastered AR is to connect 2 releases of
differing tracklist which contain a remastered release within them (eg the
remaster probably has bonus tracks). other than that, you're going to be
tagging with the same tracklist anyway (we don't say "remaster"
in the ReleaseTitle) so i don't see the benefit?

obviously NGS would change all this.

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