[mb-users] Digitally (re-)master AR attribute
Schika
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Tue Oct 3 15:13:17 UTC 2006
On 10/3/06, Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg at gmail.com> wrote:
> I understant what you are saying, but then all those "digitally remastered"
> mentions are just commercial mentions of the obvious?
>
> What changed in the "digitally remastered" re-issues that explains the
> differences some listeners find, if the original release was already
> digitally mastered? Only the improvement in the quality of the mastering
> equipment?
>
Well, 16 Bit is still 16Bit digitall or Audio-CD's nowadays able to
contain 24Bit / 36Bit / 48Bit audio data?
I've got the 3 disc "Deluxe Edition" of "The Orb's Adventures Beyond
The Ultraworld" [1] marked "Digitally Remastered" and whatnot ... and
I have to say that the sound of my vinyls from 1991 [2] is still
unbeatable.
>From my point of view, we can't talk about an "improvement" at all. :P
[1] http://www.discogs.com/release/730292
[2] http://www.discogs.com/release/55685
>
> 2006/10/3, Chris Bransden <chris at whenironsattack.com>:
> > nah:
> > first letter = method the artists were recorded to tape
> > second letter = method the tape was mixed
> > third letter = method of mastering
> >
> > in theory something that is DDA (ie, recorded and mixed digitally, but
> > analogue mastering - say, for vinyl), can be 'digitally remastered'
> > for CD. they probably wouldn't call it that but the process is the
> > same.
> >
> >
> > On 03/10/06, Frederic Da Vitoria < davitofrg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Right. Tricked by language :-(
> > >
> > > But then when it is specifically mentioned digitally remastered, doesn't
> > > this refer to the second letter?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2006/10/3, Chris Bransden < chris at whenironsattack.com>:
> > > >
> > > > the 3rd 'D' stands for digital mastering - i think it's always digital
> > > > mastering for CDs (the end result, after all, is a digital file!) -
> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARS_Code
> > > >
> > > > On 03/10/06, Frederic Da Vitoria < davitofrg at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > > > I always thought that all cds don't have to be digitally mastered.
> AFAIK
> > > > > digital mastering is supposed to be what explains the difference
> between
> > > AAD
> > > > > and ADD (although I have at least one CD marked AAD and "digitally
> > > > > remastered and remixed" :-/) I imagine there was a time when digital
> > > > > mastering was probably more expensive and there were far less people
> > > trained
> > > > > in how to do it than analogical, but now I suspect the reverse is
> true.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2006/10/3, Chris Bransden <chris at whenironsattack.com>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > IMO it's always the same process. whether or not it's "digital" or
> not
> > > > > > depends on the time it was done (i imagine all CDs have to be
> > > > > > digitally mastered, no?), and they probably don't even bother
> > > > > > mentioning it for most current releases as it's pretty much a
> given.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 03/10/06, Age Bosma <agebosma at home.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I came across a release which was first released on LP and later
> on
> > > CD.
> > > > > > > This release by 'Cuby and the Blizzards' [1] has got the person
> who
> > > did
> > > > > > > the digitally mastering to CD mentioned on the back cover.
> > > > > > > A lot of CD's have the 'Digitally re-mastered' label if the
> original
> > > > > > > release was released on LP first. Imo both 'Digitally mastered'
> and
> > > > > > > 'Digitally re-mastered' are basically the same. It just depends
> on
> > > from
> > > > > > > which perspective you look at it, the release in general or the
> CD
> > > > > > > release as a new thing.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Currently we are able to store '{additionally} mastered' AR's
> but I
> > > > > > > think we should treat 'digitally mastered' as a different role
> in
> > > case
> > > > > > > of re-mastered releases. Therefor I think it's good to introduce
> a
> > > > > > > 'digitally' attribute for the '{additionally} mastered' AR.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you think? Should it be treated differently than
> > > '{additionally}
> > > > > > > mastered'?
> > > > > > > How commonly is the info available on the cover or in the
> booklet?
> > > Does
> > > > > > > it matter if it isn't printed on most releases?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yours,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Age (Prodoc)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > > >
> http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=168451
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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