[mb-users] Vinyl sides vs disks.

Kerensky97 kerensky97 at xterra101.com
Tue Oct 3 22:37:59 UTC 2006


I VERY MUCH think we should have it be Side1+Side2=Disc 1, Side3+Side4= Disc
2 etc. regardless of whether it's on the same media.

I have a bunch of classical and opera LPs that are made up of 5-6 vinyl
records and they're set up so you run though the side A of all records then
flip the stack and run theough side B on all records.  They're actually
numbered sides 1-12 with dics 1 having side 1 (A) and 6 (B).  But labeling
that one disc as one release in a box set on MB will seriously screw up the
acts of the opera.  Then after ripping all to my computer, playing the CDs
through in order (Disc1 track 1-10, Disc2 Track 1-10) will throw the whole
opera out of whack.
Going from Act 1-Scene1, to Act 3-Scene 2, to Act 1-Scene2 is seriously not
cool.

I think grouping the sides in the order they were numbered pertains to
Aritst Intent in a big way.  I can see that argument that this is
technically incorrect for archiving purposes but the number of people who
will prefer and use this information in the correctly archived way is FAR
outnumbered by the people who will be pissed off that MusicBrainz reordered
their music in a bizzarre unlistenable order.  Plus if the old vinyls were
converted to CD the CD distributor is going to re arrange them in the order
they were meant to be listened to anyway.

Perhaps some NGS magic will allow the record to be labeled corretly in an
archival sense and tagged to digital files in the correct track order.  But
that is all speculation and will be a long time off.  For now I think
ordering per artist intent and leaving an annotation how the LP is arranged
should be entered into the database.

-Dustin (Kerensky97)


Trong Trongersoll wrote:
> 
> I am in the process of ripping my vinyl collection.
> Generally if it is a one record set i just treat it as
> one disc since physically it is on disk. If it is a
> mutiple disk set and the disk one is side 1 & 2, disk
> 2 is 3 & 4, then this still makes sense to treat each
> disk li a CD disc. 
> 
> My problem, is that i am currently ripping the concert
> for Bangladesh album and the first disk contains sides
> 1 & 6, the second sides 2 and 5, and the thirs sides 3
> & 4. since the existing CD versions don't even match
> the track labeling as the original album, i would like
> to enter it again for the vinyl and instead of using
> (disc 1) etc. i would like to enter each side as a
> entry, ie. (side 1) 
> 
> Does anyone have a problem with this?
> 
> 
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