[mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's

[Frederic Da Vitoria]

About "No" voting, I agree. In the current state of rules, once the session
info is removed from the url, I would never vote no on an ASIN if it works.

But the question was: "Should we change the rules?"

I think we can not require users to edit the URLs to the gp.product format.
I usually do it, but I guess this would be too much work for many users.

- Should we recommend (but explicitely state it is not mandatory) editing to
gp.product,
- should we recommend using the new URLs,
- or should we avoid recommending anything (in which case, I suggest we
explicitely say both ways are equally valid)?

I would choose choose the last option.

2006/10/8, Joan Whittaker <joan at whittaker1966.fsnet.co.uk>:
>
> When I first came to mb, I entered quite a few ASIN's, such as this
> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=4217687
> only to be told by an automod that it was incorrect.
>
> What was incorrect about it.  Nothing it transpired.  I had chosen as my
> local Amazon store the UK one, but because the example shown at that time
> (before the changes) said it should be
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/<ASIN>
>
> the automod failed my edits.
>
> This was an example of something being taken far too literally and I think
> we are in danger of becoming blinkered in exactly the same way.
>
> Joan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mud crow" <akamudcrow at msn.com>
> To: <musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:18 AM
> Subject: RE: [mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's
>
>
> >
> > I think it's unacceptable behaviour to be voting down valid edits
> because
> of
> > something the editor has no control over. That's a good way to scare off
> new
> > editors from musicbrainz.
> > You can't expect an editor to pick apart all these weird amazon urls and
> > only enter the valid parts.
> >
> > This is something that needs to worked out by devs & the style council,
> not
> > by people on a voting crusade to no-vote every edit,
> >
> > Mud
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Lauri Watts" <krazykiwi at gmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: General discussions about
> > >MusicBrainz<musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> > >To: "General discussions about
> > >MusicBrainz"<musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> > >Subject: [mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's
> > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:02:22 +0200
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >There is a small argument going on about Amazon URL's, after the
> > >change Amazon recently made, the wiki was not yet adjusted to
> > >accomodate: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AmazonRelationshipType
> > >
> > >For those not up to speed, Amazon recently changed their URL's from
> > >the format http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/<ASIN> or
> > >http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/<ASIN> to include an abridged version
> > >of the product title in the url.  The original url's do work, and we
> > >have no reason to expect they won't continue to.
> > >
> > >It's also noted very clearly, and in bold, that the user should not
> > >edit a url, just copy and paste it.
> > >
> > >Since people are now beginning to vote no to edits using the new
> > >format, this needs to be fixed, one way or another.
> > >
> > >We need to decide:
> > >
> > >1:  Is it ok to add the URL's with the title information in, in which
> > >case the wiki needs changing to reflect that this is ok, or
> > >
> > >2: is it ok to edit the url, in which case the wiki needs changing and
> > >very clear and explicit instructions how to perform this need to be
> > >added.
> > >
> > >Example of contentious edit going on right now:
> > >http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5729275
> > >
> > >The simplest way from an end user's point of view would be to have the
> > >javascript parser break up the pasted url, any format, and
> > >reconstitute a corrected URL (it'd be fairly simple to grab just the
> > >ASIN and the domain out of there).  Given our dearth of developers,
> > >that's probably not going to happen in a hurry.
> > >
> > >I will also note that the wiki doesn't explicitly say that these url's
> > >are unacceptable and there's been hundreds of them entered in the past
> > >couple of months.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >--
> > >Lauri Watts
>


-- 
Frederic Da Vitoria
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