[mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's

Tue Oct 10 00:28:34 UTC 2006

Joan,

I didn't mean to defend the actions of the other user - I hope you
didn't get that impression.  I was just letting you know in case you
missed it :)

Take care,
-Aaron

On 10/9/06, Joan Whittaker <joan at whittaker1966.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes, I have noticed that since Aaron, but I still think it might have been
> kinder to a newbie of 3 days to give me the chance to change it rather than
> just vote no with the message "incorrect URL".
>
> Still, that is all water under the bridge now and I did learn quickly.
>
> Joan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Aaron Cooper" <cooperaa at gmail.com>
> To: "General discussions about MusicBrainz"
> <musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's
>
>
> > On 10/8/06, Joan Whittaker <joan at whittaker1966.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > When I first came to mb, I entered quite a few ASIN's, such as this
> > > http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=4217687
> > > only to be told by an automod that it was incorrect.
> > >
> > > What was incorrect about it.  Nothing it transpired.  I had chosen as my
> > > local Amazon store the UK one, but because the example shown at that
> time
> > > (before the changes) said it should be
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/<ASIN>
> > >
> > > the automod failed my edits.
> > >
> > > This was an example of something being taken far too literally and I
> think
> > > we are in danger of becoming blinkered in exactly the same way.
> > >
> > > Joan
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "mud crow" <akamudcrow at msn.com>
> > > To: <musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 9:18 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I think it's unacceptable behaviour to be voting down valid edits
> because
> > > of
> > > > something the editor has no control over. That's a good way to scare
> off
> > > new
> > > > editors from musicbrainz.
> > > > You can't expect an editor to pick apart all these weird amazon urls
> and
> > > > only enter the valid parts.
> > > >
> > > > This is something that needs to worked out by devs & the style
> council,
> > > not
> > > > by people on a voting crusade to no-vote every edit,
> > > >
> > > > Mud
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Lauri Watts" <krazykiwi at gmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: General discussions about
> > > > >MusicBrainz<musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> > > > >To: "General discussions about
> > > > >MusicBrainz"<musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> > > > >Subject: [mb-users] Amazon ASIN url's
> > > > >Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 10:02:22 +0200
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >There is a small argument going on about Amazon URL's, after the
> > > > >change Amazon recently made, the wiki was not yet adjusted to
> > > > >accomodate: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/AmazonRelationshipType
> > > > >
> > > > >For those not up to speed, Amazon recently changed their URL's from
> > > > >the format http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/<ASIN> or
> > > > >http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/<ASIN> to include an abridged version
> > > > >of the product title in the url.  The original url's do work, and we
> > > > >have no reason to expect they won't continue to.
> > > > >
> > > > >It's also noted very clearly, and in bold, that the user should not
> > > > >edit a url, just copy and paste it.
> > > > >
> > > > >Since people are now beginning to vote no to edits using the new
> > > > >format, this needs to be fixed, one way or another.
> > > > >
> > > > >We need to decide:
> > > > >
> > > > >1:  Is it ok to add the URL's with the title information in, in which
> > > > >case the wiki needs changing to reflect that this is ok, or
> > > > >
> > > > >2: is it ok to edit the url, in which case the wiki needs changing
> and
> > > > >very clear and explicit instructions how to perform this need to be
> > > > >added.
> > > > >
> > > > >Example of contentious edit going on right now:
> > > > >http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5729275
> > > > >
> > > > >The simplest way from an end user's point of view would be to have
> the
> > > > >javascript parser break up the pasted url, any format, and
> > > > >reconstitute a corrected URL (it'd be fairly simple to grab just the
> > > > >ASIN and the domain out of there).  Given our dearth of developers,
> > > > >that's probably not going to happen in a hurry.
> > > > >
> > > > >I will also note that the wiki doesn't explicitly say that these
> url's
> > > > >are unacceptable and there's been hundreds of them entered in the
> past
> > > > >couple of months.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >--
> > > > >Lauri Watts
> > > > >
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> > Joan, hover over that URL you entered... isn't it
> >
> "http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obido
> s/ASIN/B00000737Y"?
> >  Looks like it was wrong because you double pasted :)
> > --
> > -Aaron
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