[mb-users] Using archive.org for cover art

[Philip Jägenstedt]

Very well, as long as the issue has not been forgotten I don't mind waiting.

Philip

On 10/8/07, Kuno Woudt <kuno at frob.nl> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 08, 2007 at 09:32:57PM +0800, Philip Jägenstedt wrote:
> > In the edit note I linked to it was claimed that there were legal
> > issues, which I would very much like to know about if they actually
> > exist.
>
> In the edit note you linked to the cover art is not obviously under
> public domain or some liberal license.  So, there are copyright issues.
> There is a statement on the CoverArt page claiming copyright doesn't
> apply to musicbrainz in these cases.  In itself, that is not yet enough
> reassurance for some users, there needs to be some better worked out
> policies regarding cover art, and possibly some rules users of the site
> have to follow (terms of service) with regards to linking to
> copyrighted works.  Also, I believe musicbrainz currently has a mirror
> in the UK, so the parts mirrored will also have to abide by UK copyright
> laws, not just those which apply to servers in the US.  Not having this
> thought out properly will also limit where musicbrainz can host mirrors
> if we need/want those at some point.
>
> > About the social issues, I think that discussion is very much worth
> > having. When I have linked a large number of covers from a single site
> > I have contacted those sites and gotten permission (listed as Lokpest
> > and Cakegraphy on the wiki page). What else do you consider to be best
> > practices? Or to phrase it differently, what are bad practices which
> > you think we should refrain from?
>
> The legal issues are not specific to archive.org.  But there is a social
> issue which I think is specific to archive.org.  Even if we have
> permission under copyright to embed an image on one of our pages, we
> don't always get permission to link to it from the site owners.  When
> we don't, we can use the 'cached' image on archive.org instead.  To many
> users, this seems like a sleazy thing to do, we're using someone else
> bandwidth without paying for it -- even though we have permission from
> the archive.org folks to do so, it just doesn't seem right to many
> users.
>
> The 'please hold' comment by mo is what I would ask of you too.  Rob is
> aware of the issue(s) and will look at it soon after the next server
> release (which was supposed to be yesterday, but will be done today if
> i'm not mistaken).
>
> -- kuno.
>
>
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