[mb-users] Using archive.org for cover art

[Chris B]

when we link to an image on archive.org there is no bandwidth cost to
the original site. if we have legal permission to link to an image (ie
the original site it is an archived picture from had it under a CC
license), then there is of course no problem using archive.org to host
the image, as i see it. the problem is when we use images without such
permission:

1) the fact that a site is available by archive.org (ie they haven't
refused it via robots.txt) does not imply that the webmasters are
happy for their images to be used by anyone else. it could be due to
ignorance of archive.org, or perhaps they want it to allow archived
versions of their site as a whole, with the images in the context they
were originally provided, rather than isolated or worse: on a
different site entirely!

2) in the event that the site doesn't own the copyrights of the images
they provide (eg discogs.com), then we are basically using their
communities hard work to our own end. they don't 'own' the images, but
that community 'owns' the time that got them there. i think we need to
respect that and not just screen-scrape.

On 10/10/2007, Philip Jägenstedt <philip at foolip.org> wrote:
> I would also like some clear points on what some editors find
> objectionable, the discussion on the wiki is pretty messy...
>
> Philip
>
> On 10/10/07, Philipp Wolfer <phw at rubyforge.org> wrote:
> > The problem I see with this whole discussion is, that there are two
> > completely different points mixed up. First, there are legal problems.
> > We might not be able to use a image due to copyright issues. Second,
> > there is the problem that we can not just link to arbitrary images as
> > we don't have the permission to use the bandwidth of the site offering
> > those images.
> >
> > What I don't understand are the problems we have with linking to cover
> > art via the wayback machine in cases where we have the legal (e.g. CC
> > content), but not the bandwidth permission.
> >
> > --
> > Philipp Wolfer
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