[mb-users] Artist {guest} performed Track AR, why isn't anyone using it?

[Chris B]

On 21/10/2007, Mika Heiska <kilualmighty at gmail.com> wrote:
> artysmokes wrote:
> >
> > Philip Jägenstedt-3 wrote:
> >> As I see it, "additionally guest performed" means that they 1) guest
> >> performed 2) are not the main guest performer. So in other words
> >> "additionally guest performed" when there is only one artist featured
> >> seems very strange.
> >>
> > I rarely use "additional", and certainly not at the same time as guest, but
> > I wouldn't vote against such an edit. I tend to think of "additional"
> > referring to (a member of) the TrackArtist doing something they don't
> > normally do. e.g. "Britney Spears additionally performed backing vocals (on
> > her own song)", or "Morrissey additionally performed piano (on a track by
> > The Smiths)". Hope this helps.
> > --
> > Cheers, Arty
> >
>
> This is why I don't use 'additional' at all. There doesn't seem to be a
> clear idea of what it actually is intented for. Additional is such a
> vague term.
>
> As for guest performers, I usually just use it if it's specifically
> mentioned in the booklet, which isn't all that often.

use of additional + guest would be when you get credits like:
"piano performed by [member of band]" and
"additional piano by [non-member of band]"

guest = anyone not considered a member of the band (at that time)
additional = any non-primary instance of that role (excludes things
like 'backing vocals' since a 'primary' role exists for them).

the reason no-one uses the performed by ARs (and ARs in general) is
that it's only recently that there's been the ability to bulk-add ARs.
it's only been slightly before that that we've been able to see
track-level ARs at the release level, and hell, ARs as a thing are
still relatively new for musicbrainz. also, it's a nightmare to get
new ARs added to the list, and i've found that every other release i
try to enter has a new AR required, which normally makes me give up
rather than start that process again...

it's only with the last server update i have the ability to properly
AR up most of the releases i own (bulking functionality), and as yet i
don't have the motivation to spend the many 100s of hours that would
take. i do however try and do it for my new additions, but again it
depends on my time available.