[mb-users] Re: Re: Clean vs. Explicit versions

[Brian Schweitzer]

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> The problem with keeping multiple releases is that PUIDs and disc ids
> etc will /always/ be incorrectly attributed even if there is some funky
> annotation explaining it because very few users actually look at that
> info. It means you have two logical entities in theory, but you get a
> big mess of actual data relating to them making them essentially the
> same release after any period of time. That mess is difficult for anyone
> to clean up because the data is difficult to obtain reliably and few
> people have both copies.


Mis-identified PUIDs and TOCs doesn't seem, to me, to be a great reason to
merge data...  It seems more an argument for trying to better prevent things
being added to the wrong release, not a reason to simply merge non-identical
releases for the sake of simplicity.

Remember that for most of us arguing the "other way", our argument only

> applies if the track times are the same. The majority of clean vs.
> explicit versions around have differing track times and/or tracks
> anyway, and I don't think anyone would argue to keep those instances in
> a single release.
>


This too I don't buy into.  By the same argument, two remixes by different
people of the same song, but with the same track time are identical?
(exaggeration, but you get my point).  Different example - on my machine
right now I have two versions of the same album.  One had the master mixed
by one producer, the other had the master mixed by a different producer (and
is much rarer, as it was only accidentally even released at all).    We have
both in the database, with annotations on them.  The puids for each are
different.  The tracktimes, however, are identical.  So we ought to merge
them, even though they're audibly different releases, only because a) the
release has the same name, b) the tracklist is the same, and c) the times
for the tracks are the same, even though they're audibly and
production-credit-wise *not* the same?

I know this argument has been brought up before with respect to remasters,
and I still think those perhaps ought to be separated.  But merging releases
that are so different that even the label bothers to label them as
different?  ("Clean" / "Explicit")  I agree with Frederic - that wouldn't be
us being discriminant enough, and would definitely not be cool.

Brian
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