[mb-users] using folksonomy tags for personal collections/wishlists

[Oliver Charles]

I've had this idea and bought it up a few times, but I think you're
over complicating it. Why do we need special tags per user? Then you
won't be able to easily make a page listing everyone who owns/wants
this, without creating some code first.

If the search system was enhanced slightly to support showing all tags
by certain users (may well already be possible with lucene queries)
then we've effectivly got a large part of the task already
accomplished.

My thoughts against it? Well, it's not exactly how I feel tags should
be used. While I think tags should very much be a personal thing and
not only made with the intention of social benefits, I'm not sure this
is a perfect application of tags. I plan to use tags to fill out the
genre field in iTunes for one - and I don't want every single item to
have "I own this" – that's obvious!

MusicBrainz definitly needs some type of own/want feature though!

On 9/26/07, Bogdan Butnaru <bogdanb at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds interesting!
>
> On 9/26/07, Alex Dupuy <alex.dupuy at mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > Something that just occurred to me while replying to a random request for
> > help, is that we could use the folksonomy tagging support to implement the
> > often-requested "I have this album" / "I want this album" feature.
> >
> > There's no need to have voting and whatever on the contents of my personal
> > collection and wishlist - while the current (still-in-beta) interface for
> > the folksonomy tags isn't ideal for this, I think the back-end database
> > support is.  And we can use the forthcoming support right away, with some
> > simple conventions.
> >
> > If you have a release, tag it with "owned-<modname>" (e.g. I would use
> > "owned-dupuy"); if you want it, use "wanted-<modname>" instead.
> >
> > Once there's some search capability for tags, you should be able to search
> > your collection and wishlist.  You can (sort-of) do this already with the
> > current (still-in-beta) interface by using the
> > http://test.musicbrainz.org/show/tag/?tag=owned-dupuy URL interface (is
> > there a way to add this to the search things on the left sidebar?).
> >
> > If this seems to be popular, the next next server release could treat these
> > "collection tags" specially:
> >
> > * adding buttons ("I have this", "I want this") to release page that add the
> > corresponding tag
> >
> > * filtering these tags from the standard tags view and displaying them
> > separately
> >
> > * preventing moderator "luser" from adding "owned-otheruser" and mapping
> > user-entered "owned" and "wanted" to "wanted-luser" automatically
> >
> > * maybe using a namespace-reserved character  (like ':') for collection
> > tags, e.g. "owned:dupuy" to simplify this special treatment (we'd want to
> > mass-convert the database if this is done)
> >
> > [I've also added this to the http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/FolksonomyTagging
> > page - feel free to respond and/or comment there]
> >
> > @alex
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> >
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