[mb-users] Sortingorder Dutch tussenvoegsel

[Alan Pepelko]

Finally I get it. Thanks. :)

2008/4/21, Kuno Woudt <kuno at frob.nl>:
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 09:10:35AM +0200, Alan Pepelko wrote:
> > 2008/4/21, Sander van Zoest <sander at vanzoest.com>:
> > >
>
> > Sorry, but I just can't understand the point of sorting order "Last
> name,
> > tussenvoegsel, First name". For the purpose of sorting is just useless
> and
> > pointless, IMO.
>
>
> The main advantange is that it keeps family members together, as you
> would expect when people have identical family names.
>
> This has been explained earlier in the thread, but I can re-iterate:
>
> If you have two families, e.g. 'Bruin' en 'De Bruin':
>
> Bruin consisting of father, Jan Bruin, with two kids Wytze Bruin
> and Baukje Bruin.
>
> And the De Bruin family consisting of mother Akke de Bruin and her
> kids Rinske de Bruin and Hilbert de Bruin.
>
> If you disregard the 'tussenvoegsel', they're all jumbled up:
>
> Bruin, Akke de
> Bruin, Baukje
> Bruin, Hilbert de
> Bruin, Jan
> Bruin, Rinske de
> Bruin, Wytze
>
> Which is not what you expect when sorting on family names.  If you
> take the tussenvoegsel into account you get:
>
> Bruin, , Baukje
> Bruin, , Jan
> Bruin, , Wytze
> Bruin, de, Akke
> Bruin, de, Hilbert
> Bruin, de, Rinske
>
> That's how dutch names should be sorted.
>
> Ofcourse, musicbrainz probably sorts it like this right now:
>
> Bruin, Baukje
> Bruin, de, Akke
> Bruin, de, Hilbert
> Bruin, de, Rinske
> Bruin, Jan
> Bruin, Wytze
>
> Which is not correct either :)
>
> -- kuno / warp.
>
>
>
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