[mb-users] Sortingorder Dutch tussenvoegsel

[Sander van Zoest]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 09:10:35AM +0200, Alan Pepelko wrote:
> 2008/4/21, Sander van Zoest <sander at vanzoest.com>:
> >
> > I think what is going on here, is that the meaning for SortName seems to
> > have changed or it was never understood equally. I guess that is the
> > beauty
> > of the style guide in that it allows everyone to come to the same
> > conclusion.
> >
> > It is clear that the reason behind "Groot, de, Boudewijn" was not fully
> > understood by many, as clearly indicated by <
> > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/SortNameStyleDiscussion>. The point was to
> > have 3 separate columns that would be sorted in that order, but it seems to
> > be pretty clear that we are moving away from that. If the comma separated
> > parts are never treated as different entities than it is clear that you will
> > never be able to sort using th SortName appropriately and you are better off
> > using it as ArtistListDisplayName or something like that.
> 
> Sorry, but I just can't understand the point of sorting order "Last name,
> tussenvoegsel, First name". For the purpose of sorting is just useless and
> pointless, IMO. I think that the main part is the last name and all after
> that is somehow irrelevant, so better left it in its natural order.

Did you see the original examples mentioned? I do not think it is worth
rehashing, but there is a definite purpose. It ensures that all the same
nobiliary particle get grouped together. It is clear that nobiliary particle
is part of the last name, and shouldn't be ignored entirely. :)
  
-- Sander