[mb-users] Sortingorder Dutch tussenvoegsel

[Fred Marchee]

Thomas Tholén wrote
>
>     Ofcourse, musicbrainz probably sorts it like this right now:
>
>     Bruin, Baukje
>     Bruin, de, Akke
>     Bruin, de, Hilbert
>     Bruin, de, Rinske
>     Bruin, Jan
>     Bruin, Wytze
>
>     Which is not correct either :)
>
>     -- kuno / warp.
>
>  
> Ouch. Now we're all of a sudden touching a real problem that I didn't 
> see before. How in the h e double hockey sticks do we tackle this? We 
> can't just put an extra comma in each and every sort name, can we?
>  
> //[bnw]
>
>  

Freek de Jong once made a joke about a fat guy called "Aad de Rol" in 
the phonebook he was called Rol, A. de (in Dutch this was quite funny,  
rollade is some kind of meat and we sometimes call a fat man a "rollade".)

Sorting names in Dutch is hard to understand for not Dutch speaking people.

And it had a lot to do with the fact that Ruud van Gelder living in 
Holland, speaking Dutch and wearing wooden shoes has his sortname 
written as: Gelder, R. van. And the famous Jazz recording engineer Rudy 
Van Gelder (capital V) is has his sortname written as Van Gelder, R.

So the Dutch guy is found under the "G" (or else we had an enormous 
entry under "V" in our phonebook), Jazz man Van Gelder is found under 
the "V" in an American phonebook. (I think but I don't want to mess with 
the American names)

Fred.