[mb-users] Tussenvoegsels (again)

[Johannes Dewender]

Am Freitag, 25. April 2008 schrieb Frederic Da Vitoria:
> I like the openness of your attitude, but if some users are expecting
> to group family names together and others would rather do as if the
> "third" name did not exist at all, I don't think consistency can be
> reached. I believe that part of this discussion stems from the fact
> that no example in SortNameStyle addresses this issue. So I think it
> would be better if a desired sort order could be clearly defined
> (even if it only satisfies Dutch users) and an fitting example added
> to SortNameStyle.

Well, I also don't have a real opinion in that, because I don't really 
know how people "feel" the "de" in their names.
I only want to not, that you better not rip a "de" apart from a name 
like "Dewender".  This is actually a german name, as far at exists only 
in Germany, but it has a dutch origin NOT connected to an "ordinary 
de". Dutch people might know a city called "Deventer". I am not saying 
that for no reason. When I lived in the states for a year, I had my 
name spelled like "DeWender" quite often.

I also don't think we can please everyone, because there is everything 
in between a "de" that is felt as unimportant and a "de" that 
is "close" to beeing a prefix for a Name, that is only "still" 
separated with a space. We should use the most common case, but I don't 
know which one that would be.

For the technical stuff:
"Last, First de" has no need of a technical change, "de Last, First" 
needs no change and "Last, _de, First" first can actually be defined by 
a styleguide, without a change and after a change it can be moved to 
another solution quite easy (these 2-3 names that actually have a "_de" 
in their name can be changed back manually..).

--JonnyJD
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