[mb-users] Group had to change there name - two artist entries?

[Lauri Watts]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Olivier <viapanda at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/2/26, Lauri Watts <krazykiwi at gmail.com>:
>
> > I think it's one where current practice has gotten away from the
>  >  guideline (yes, yet another one :)
>  >
>  >  Common thing to do now is add both names, file releases as appropriate
>  >  and relate them with a 'performed as' AR with start and end dates to
>  >  the old name.
>  >
>  >  Which makes sense to the pragmatist in me, and the ones I've done that
>  >  way have been voted through.
>  >
>  >  Notably though, they have been cases of the band itself changing it's
>  >  name.  The case of a band being forced to change their name for legal
>  >  reasons often has the additional constraint that they had to withdraw
>  >  their back catalog, and if those albums are re-issued, they are often
>  >  reissued with no changes other than the cover name, and you can't buy
>  >  their old albums under the old name.
>  >
>  >  So you have precedent either way, but a couple of examples that I can think of:
>  >  Cases where we split and AR'ed them:
>  >  Teddybears
>  >  Panic at the Disco
>  >
>  >  Ones that aren't split, all the releases are filed under the new name
>  >  (band changed name for legal reasons, not just creative or marketing)
>  >  The Kovenant
>  >
>  >  I would vote yes to splitting the discography and a performance AR, fwiw.
>  >
>
>
>  Lauri, am I wrong or the case mentioned here concern *groups* and not
>  Perf Names?
>

You're not wrong.  Sort of.

We discussed it briefly at some point here, or in edit notes, I don't
remember, and
can't find right now, but to summarise:

* There's really no semantic difference between a group as a whole
performing as
another group name vs a person doing so (there are examples of for instance,
The Beatles rolling up to a random club and doing an unannounced set
under a completely different name)
* The AR text makes no reference to performance names being only for people.
* The AR lets you set start/end dates when the name was used too.
* It just makes sense when you look at it on the page (honest, look at
Teddybears, it's
quite clear what is going on)
* It satisfies all the people expecting either name, and the case of
albums being reissued
under the later name.

Let's say it's a bit of emergent behaviour.

Panic(!) at the disco doesn't have the AR, but it could.

-- 
Lauri Watts