[mb-users] Bonus discs: "Official" or "Promotion"?

Frederic Da Vitoria davitofrg at gmail.com
Tue Jul 1 22:13:51 UTC 2008


That's how I feel too, but I guess it should be confirmed and written.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Chris B <chris at whenironsattack.com> wrote:
> ReleaseAttribute was meant to be ReleaseType. I don't know why i
> didn't spot that when i added that to BonusDisc and now it would need
> a new RFC to change, probably :/
>
> I would say the ReleaseStatus must always be the same for the entire
> release - only the ReleaseType can vary (eg when you get a bonus disc
> that is an EP, when the primary release is an album). ReleaseStatus is
> how the package is sold, and ReleaseType is what it *is*. They are
> sold as part of the same package, but what they are can (and usually
> does!) vary.
>
> that's my take, anyway!
>
> 2008/7/1 Mark Trolley <marktrolley at gmail.com>:
>> I just noticed some other people were having the same discussion on
>> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ReleaseStatus, but I also see that according to
>> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/BonusDisc:
>>
>> "Also note that the ReleaseAttribute of bonus discs are not necessarily the
>> same as the release they were distributed with. Use the attribute correct
>> for the bonus disc on its own."
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Although technically MB Releases are discs, I feel that a real-world
>>> release is virtually made of the individual discs (what MB calls
>>> Releases, are you still following me?) so that the ReleaseStatus
>>> should stay the same on all the Releases of a release. By now, you
>>> should be completely lost :-D
>>>
>>> If by any chance you caught my meaning, be warned: This is only my
>>> point of view, I may be completely wrong!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Mark Trolley <marktrolley at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > "etc." leaves it a bit open for interpretation though. I went with
>>> > Official
>>> > after all, the more I thought about it the more I felt that was right.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria
>>> > <davitofrg at gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Mark Trolley <marktrolley at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > Should a bonus disc included with an album (or in the case of the one
>>> >> > I'm
>>> >> > looking at now the deluxe release of an album) be considered an
>>> >> > "Official"
>>> >> > EP or a "Promotion" EP? I have entered them before as "Official" but
>>> >> > I'm
>>> >> > not
>>> >> > sure if that's right now since they are not available on their own,
>>> >> > but
>>> >> > can
>>> >> > only be obtained by buying the album they come with. With the release
>>> >> > I'm
>>> >> > looking at now, the deluxe edition of Agony & Irony by Alkaline Trio
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > feels like I should be using "Promotion" since it's being used as a
>>> >> > selling
>>> >> > tool to get you to buy the deluxe edition instead of the regular
>>> >> > edition.
>>> >>
>>> >> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ReleaseStatus :
>>> >>
>>> >> "A give-away release or a release intended to promote an upcoming
>>> >> official release. (e.g. pre-release versions or releases included with
>>> >> a magazine, versions supplied to radio DJs for air-play, etc)."
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think bonus disks would fit the definition!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Frederic Da Vitoria
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