[mb-users] Bonus discs: "Official" or "Promotion"?

Mark Trolley marktrolley at gmail.com
Wed Jul 2 03:00:22 UTC 2008


That's what I thought as well, and that's how I added it. Thanks :)

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Chris B <chris at whenironsattack.com> wrote:

> ReleaseAttribute was meant to be ReleaseType. I don't know why i
> didn't spot that when i added that to BonusDisc and now it would need
> a new RFC to change, probably :/
>
> I would say the ReleaseStatus must always be the same for the entire
> release - only the ReleaseType can vary (eg when you get a bonus disc
> that is an EP, when the primary release is an album). ReleaseStatus is
> how the package is sold, and ReleaseType is what it *is*. They are
> sold as part of the same package, but what they are can (and usually
> does!) vary.
>
> that's my take, anyway!
>
> 2008/7/1 Mark Trolley <marktrolley at gmail.com>:
> > I just noticed some other people were having the same discussion on
> > http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ReleaseStatus, but I also see that according
> to
> > http://musicbrainz.org/doc/BonusDisc:
> >
> > "Also note that the ReleaseAttribute of bonus discs are not necessarily
> the
> > same as the release they were distributed with. Use the attribute correct
> > for the bonus disc on its own."
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria <davitofrg at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Although technically MB Releases are discs, I feel that a real-world
> >> release is virtually made of the individual discs (what MB calls
> >> Releases, are you still following me?) so that the ReleaseStatus
> >> should stay the same on all the Releases of a release. By now, you
> >> should be completely lost :-D
> >>
> >> If by any chance you caught my meaning, be warned: This is only my
> >> point of view, I may be completely wrong!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Mark Trolley <marktrolley at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > "etc." leaves it a bit open for interpretation though. I went with
> >> > Official
> >> > after all, the more I thought about it the more I felt that was right.
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Frederic Da Vitoria
> >> > <davitofrg at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Mark Trolley <marktrolley at gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Should a bonus disc included with an album (or in the case of the
> one
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > looking at now the deluxe release of an album) be considered an
> >> >> > "Official"
> >> >> > EP or a "Promotion" EP? I have entered them before as "Official"
> but
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > sure if that's right now since they are not available on their own,
> >> >> > but
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > only be obtained by buying the album they come with. With the
> release
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > looking at now, the deluxe edition of Agony & Irony by Alkaline
> Trio
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > feels like I should be using "Promotion" since it's being used as a
> >> >> > selling
> >> >> > tool to get you to buy the deluxe edition instead of the regular
> >> >> > edition.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ReleaseStatus :
> >> >>
> >> >> "A give-away release or a release intended to promote an upcoming
> >> >> official release. (e.g. pre-release versions or releases included
> with
> >> >> a magazine, versions supplied to radio DJs for air-play, etc)."
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think bonus disks would fit the definition!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Frederic Da Vitoria
> >>
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