[mb-users] "and" vs. "vs." ("and" and "vs.") collaborations

[Atedos]

Still we need some sort of solution, at least temporary.
Or would you like to wait for several years more, until NGS comes to live?

Kuno Woudt пишет:
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 04:30:27PM +0400, Atedos wrote:
>   
>> The question is: Are they the same?
>> Situation is as follows:
>> Don Davis and Juno Reactor collaboration is presented in different ways 
>> on releases, in "and" meaning, and in "vs." meaning.
>> Some of argumentations here 
>> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8921018 and here 
>> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8921017
>> I used to believe they are surely different, but now I'm in doubt.
>>     
>
> In general, I think the practice is to merge these as much as possible.
> I think 'vs.' is different enough to warrant a duplicate, but it will
> depend a lot on which artists are involved, how consistently is the
> labeling used, etc...
>
>   
>> I see two solutions:
>> 1) Create two collaborations, and use them separately, as credited on 
>> releases. But in this case it would be duplicates (if they are 
>> considered the same), which is undesirable.
>>     
>
> For some artists, this is really the only option without losing
> information users interested in those artists feel important.
> For example, japanese artists (yes, them again):
>
> I think most users will expect the 'm-flo loves...' collaborations
> to be in the database the way they are now.  'm-flo♥Crystal Kay'
> and 'Crystal Kay♥m-flo' should not be merged.
>
>   
>> 2) Create one common collaboration (perhaps standardized "and" or "&" 
>> one), and use it for all credits. In this case it would be a lack of 
>> information, concerning the way of collaboration (if they are considered 
>> different).
>>     
>
> This should be the general guideline, but ConsistentOriginalData and
> ArtistIntent may in certain cases be enough reason to deviate from this
> and create duplicates.
>
> Neither option is perfect, and I believe this will eventually be
> addressed by NGS -- how an artist is credited on a release will be 
> seperated from the artist entity itself (iirc anyway, ngs is still 
> a rather fuzzy subject to me :).
>
> -- kuno / warp.
>
>
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