[mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

Adam Golding adamgolding at gmail.com
Thu Jun 19 08:59:12 UTC 2008


Ok, I thought last.fm assumed something about the artist field.  Does
last.fm try to extract information from these fields, i.e. extracting
classical performers from album titles?

Does anyone know what last.fm might be doing in the future to address this?

2008/6/19 Ali, Mustaqil M <muz at last.fm>:

>  IT scrobbles classical in the same way as it does any other kind, by
> reading the Artist and Track tags at a minimum. The protocol only ever
> describes reading the tags:
>
>
>
> Artist
>
> Album
>
> Track
>
> Track number
>
> Track MBID
>
>
>
> This is an issue that was overlooked from the conception of Audioscrobbler,
> and there are no other tags you can include for the more accurate scrobbling
> of classical music. It's down to you as a user to choose what you want in
> the artist tag, be it the composer, who performed it or who conducted it etc
> etc.
>
>
>
> *From:* musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto:
> musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] *On Behalf Of *Adam
> Golding
> *Sent:* 19 June 2008 08:38
> *To:* General discussions about MusicBrainz
>
> *Subject:* Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm
>
>
>
> ok, but how does last.fm scrobble classical music?  what does it expect to
> see in 'artist'? can last.fm scrobble more effectively if other tags are
> present as well?
>
> 2008/6/19 Ali, Mustaqil M <muz at last.fm>:
>
> At minimum, all we need are correct artist and track title tags in order
> for someone to scrobble.
>
> If you have MBIDs assigned to your track, we can rely solely on those to
> figure out what the track played, however there are things to be wary;
>
> 1) The plugin you use needs to submit the MBID. Although this is described
> in the scrobbling protocol, it is an optional parameter and not all plugins
> adhere to it. I think that the latest official client on Windows and all of
> its plugins do submit MBIDs, but a large number of third party scribblers
> don't.
>
> 2) Our MBID -> track name lookups rely on us having a copy of that MBID
> from when we last imported a copy of the MB database. Our data imports are
> not automated at the moment, and I can't vouch for when the last one was
> done. If we don't have the relevant MBIDs in our database, we default to
> reading your artist and track title at minimum, as a minimum to scrobble.
>
> 3) If our MBID -> Track name link is out of date in light of changes on the
> MB site, they may not have been imported for the same above reason, meaning
> that you may then get a wrongly assigned track name due to the MBID.
>
> -- Muz
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org
> > [mailto:musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of
> > Kuno Woudt
> > Sent: 19 June 2008 07:12
> > To: adamgolding at adamgolding.com; General discussions about MusicBrainz
> > Subject: Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 01:43:50AM -0400, Adam Golding wrote:
> > > I am planning on using taggerscript to tag my files in a somewhat
> > unusual
> > > way.  What tags do I have to leave as is in order for things to
> > scobble
> > > properly with last.fm?  I'm specially worried about classical music,
> > too.
> >
> > If the software you are using for scrobbling submits the MBIDs of the
> > tracks, the other tags are mostly ignored i _think_.  Please confirm
> > this with the last.fm people, and... not all scrobble plugins submit
> > MBIDs, so make sure the one you're using does that.
> >
> > -- kuno / warp.
> >
> >
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