[mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

[Adam Golding]

Several reasons:

   1.  I'd like a solution I can also recommend to others who haven't made
the plunge into tagging with MB
   2.  I'm using taggerscript, and put the composer into the artist field
(even for non-classical releases), but don't want to unduly clutter the
last.fm database with entries scrobbled by composer along with those
scrobbled by 'artist'.
   3.  MBIDs are required to distinguish releases with the same album title,
i.e. two different recordings of a symphony by the same conductor/orchestra.

... and probably others I've forgotten.


2008/6/26 Tekno Junky <teknojnky at hotmail.com>:

>  What is the importantance of MBID's to you (or last.fm) if the files have
> standardized MB metadata anyway?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Adam Golding <adamgolding at gmail.com>
> *To:* General discussions about MusicBrainz<musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:52 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm
>
> ok, iSproggler it is then. :p
>
> 2008/6/26 Ali, Mustaqil M <muz at last.fm>:
>
>>   No, not Jonty, mll ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam, with regards to MBIDs and iPod scrobbling, the client doesn't pull
>> MBIDs for scrobbling your iPod. At least, not for now.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org [mailto:
>> musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] *On Behalf Of *MLL
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2008 14:18
>>
>> *To:* General discussions about MusicBrainz
>> *Subject:* Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm
>>
>>
>>
>> Ali, Mustaqil M wrote:
>>
>> I clearly need to hit someone in the face then. Someone sitting next to
>> me…
>>
>> Poor Jonty ?
>>
>> mll
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm right, their answer is badly worded and rather lacking in details ;)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org [
>> mailto:musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org<musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Adam Golding
>> *Sent:* 26 June 2008 13:17
>> *To:* General discussions about MusicBrainz
>> *Subject:* Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/6/19 Ali, Mustaqil M <muz at last.fm>:
>>
>> At minimum, all we need are correct artist and track title tags in order
>> for someone to scrobble.
>>
>> If you have MBIDs assigned to your track, we can rely solely on those to
>> figure out what the track played, however there are things to be wary;
>>
>> 1) The plugin you use needs to submit the MBID. Although this is described
>> in the scrobbling protocol, it is an optional parameter and not all plugins
>> adhere to it. I think that the latest official client on Windows and all of
>> its plugins do submit MBIDs, but a large number of third party scribblers
>> don't.
>>
>> 2) Our MBID -> track name lookups rely on us having a copy of that MBID
>> from when we last imported a copy of the MB database. Our data imports are
>> not automated at the moment, and I can't vouch for when the last one was
>> done. If we don't have the relevant MBIDs in our database, we default to
>> reading your artist and track title at minimum, as a minimum to scrobble.
>>
>> 3) If our MBID -> Track name link is out of date in light of changes on
>> the MB site, they may not have been imported for the same above reason,
>> meaning that you may then get a wrongly assigned track name due to the MBID.
>>
>> -- Muz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I seem to get contradictiig information, from last.fm support, saying
>> that MBID tags are not read by the official software, only mentioning
>> last.fm's own fingerprinting--quoted message below:
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> Hi,
>>
>> last.fm only takes the metadata from the song on your computer (song and
>> artist titles) and nothing else. Last.fm also has the option to
>> fingerprint
>> your tracks, you can read more here:
>> http://www.last.fm/help/faq/?category=Fingerprinting
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> The Last.fm Support Team
>>
>> - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> "Adam Golding" <adamgolding at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > does the official last.fm software submit musicbrainz ids when
>> scrobbling
>> > the ipod?
>> >
>> > 2008/6/26 Last. fm Support <support at last.fm>:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Sorry, but we currently do not offer support for scrobbling devices
>> other
>> > > than
>> > > with the offical Last.fm software, but if you wish, you can check out
>> > > http://build.last.fm for other third party plugins that might.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > The Last.fm Support Team
>> > >
>> > > adamgolding <adamgolding at adamgolding.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > What methods of scrobbling from portable devices will submit
>> musicbrainz
>> > > ids?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
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