[mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

Thu Jun 26 15:01:13 UTC 2008

The main benefit for a user from the perspective of scrobbling to
Last.fm is that if the information in Musicbrainz is updated, and we
update our import of the Musicbrainz database, when this track is
scrobbled, it'll display with the new metadata as opposed to the
outdated content currently within the user's file.

From: musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org
[mailto:musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of
Tekno Junky
Sent: 26 June 2008 15:20
To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
Subject: Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

What is the importantance of MBID's to you (or last.fm) if the files
have standardized MB metadata anyway?

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Adam Golding <mailto:adamgolding at gmail.com>  

	To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
<mailto:musicbrainz-users at lists.musicbrainz.org>  

	Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:52 AM

	Subject: Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

	ok, iSproggler it is then. :p

	2008/6/26 Ali, Mustaqil M <muz at last.fm>:

	No, not Jonty, mll ;)

	Adam, with regards to MBIDs and iPod scrobbling, the client
doesn't pull MBIDs for scrobbling your iPod. At least, not for now.

	From: musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org
[mailto:musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of
MLL
	Sent: 26 June 2008 14:18 

	To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
	Subject: Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

	Ali, Mustaqil M wrote: 

	I clearly need to hit someone in the face then. Someone sitting
next to me...

	Poor Jonty ?

	mll

	I'm right, their answer is badly worded and rather lacking in
details ;)

	From: musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org
[mailto:musicbrainz-users-bounces at lists.musicbrainz.org] On Behalf Of
Adam Golding
	Sent: 26 June 2008 13:17
	To: General discussions about MusicBrainz
	Subject: Re: [mb-users] taggerscript / last.fm

	2008/6/19 Ali, Mustaqil M <muz at last.fm>:

	At minimum, all we need are correct artist and track title tags
in order for someone to scrobble.

	If you have MBIDs assigned to your track, we can rely solely on
those to figure out what the track played, however there are things to
be wary;

	1) The plugin you use needs to submit the MBID. Although this is
described in the scrobbling protocol, it is an optional parameter and
not all plugins adhere to it. I think that the latest official client on
Windows and all of its plugins do submit MBIDs, but a large number of
third party scribblers don't.

	2) Our MBID -> track name lookups rely on us having a copy of
that MBID from when we last imported a copy of the MB database. Our data
imports are not automated at the moment, and I can't vouch for when the
last one was done. If we don't have the relevant MBIDs in our database,
we default to reading your artist and track title at minimum, as a
minimum to scrobble.

	3) If our MBID -> Track name link is out of date in light of
changes on the MB site, they may not have been imported for the same
above reason, meaning that you may then get a wrongly assigned track
name due to the MBID.

	-- Muz

	I seem to get contradictiig information, from last.fm support,
saying that MBID tags are not read by the official software, only
mentioning last.fm's own fingerprinting--quoted message below:

	-------------------------------------------------
	Hi,

	last.fm <http://last.fm/>  only takes the metadata from the song
on your computer (song and
	artist titles) and nothing else. Last.fm also has the option to
fingerprint
	your tracks, you can read more here:
	http://www.last.fm/help/faq/?category=Fingerprinting

	Regards,
	The Last.fm Support Team

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	"Adam Golding" <adamgolding at gmail.com> wrote:

	> does the official last.fm <http://last.fm/>  software submit
musicbrainz ids when scrobbling
	> the ipod?
	>
	> 2008/6/26 Last. fm Support <support at last.fm>:
	>
	> > Hi,
	> >
	> > Sorry, but we currently do not offer support for scrobbling
devices other
	> > than
	> > with the offical Last.fm software, but if you wish, you can
check out
	> > http://build.last.fm <http://build.last.fm/>  for other
third party plugins that might.
	> >
	> > Regards,
	> > The Last.fm Support Team
	> >
	> > adamgolding <adamgolding at adamgolding.com> wrote:
	> >
	> > > What methods of scrobbling from portable devices will
submit musicbrainz
	> > ids?
	> > >
	> > >
	> > >
	> >
	> >
	>

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