[mb-users] Feedback/testing: track merging

Philip Jägenstedt philip at foolip.org
Mon Mar 17 09:51:47 UTC 2008


I'm not clear on the details, but think that the track name and track
length should be a property of the album and not the common object.
The name shouldn't be the same on tranl{iter}ated Pseudo-Releases and
the length way very well differ by a few seconds due to different gap
lengths on the CD.

Philip

On 3/17/08, Aaron Cooper <cooperaa at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 16-Mar-08, at 5:37 PM, Lukáš Lalinský wrote:
>
>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > over the last two weekends I've done a little mb_server code
>  > refactoring
>  > and put together some old code, which implements "track merging" -
>  > http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/TrackMerging. I'd like to ask you for
>  > feedback, especially about the issues listed on the wiki page, but
>  > also
>  > for testing on http://tests.musicbrainz.org/ (tracks can be merged
>  > from
>  > the new "Tracks" page). The code is very far from finished, and so
>  > expect many things to be broken for now. But still, if you find
>  > something that doesn't work, please send a mail about it here, because
>  > those non-functional parts are usually also the ones that need
>  > discussion.
>
>
> Right off the bat I want to say this looks like a lot of fun!  I
>  haven't had much time to play with it because I just got home from
>  Iron Maiden's concert in Toronto and I've got to get *some* sleep
>  before work tomorrow!  Here are some of my early observations:
>
>  1. Merges aren't auto-edits for AutoEditors.  I think they could be
>  and I personally would like to be able to merge without a vote.
>
>  2. Merges don't select a "destination" track by default.  I assume the
>  only reason we pick one is so that we pick the correct spelling of the
>  track title.  I hope in most cases our titles are consistent so it
>  would save a click if we had the first track selected by default.
>
>  3. I think each track could use some context on the Tracks page.
>  Maybe list the album name in another column so we can look at that to
>  see maybe "Ah, this is their demo, so a different track." or "This is
>  a live recording, I shouldn't merge this with the studio recording."
>  Speaking of live recordings...
>
>  4. I assume we will not be merging different recordings together so
>  the TracksMerging is not the same as works lists.  Is TracksMerging a
>  step towards creating TrackMasters?
>
>  5. If we're now going to be working with track masters, we will
>  probably need some way to disambiguate between the main studio
>  recording of a song (say Enter Sandman) and the 200~ live versions on
>  bootlegs.  On the Tracks page we're going to have 201~ tracks that say
>  "Enter Sandman" and we won't want them merged.  Is listing the
>  associated album names beside the track group enough?
>
>  In case anyone is interested, I've put in a number of Merge Tracks
>  edits for In Flames (http://test.musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?artist_type=3&artist_id=10984&orderby=desc
>  ).
>
>  Nice work, Lukáš!
>
>
>  -Aaron
>
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